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'''Rob wrote: November 4, 2015 at 5:48pm'''
Hello Byron -
You’re welcome and thank you for your comments! They have been a great help in honing the description.
1. Yes, I agree that above the ‘historical background’ there needs to be a brief description of the Teaching Mission. I do like the idea of using existing expression wherever possible and will draw from the FAQ in the next draft.
2. I will see if I can fit this in though the information is found when exploring the menu items.
3. The teachers don’t describe themselves as celestials but as equals lifting us to know we too are ‘celestial'. [1]
4. As for the three phases, they correspond directly to the last three of the five phases of the kingdom of heaven as described by Midwayers representing Jesus’ thought. As such, I think you will see that any contacts with ‘celestials' is germane to the third phase regarding the supermortal dimension of brotherhood, something activated for more general access following the adjudication of rebellion. The next phase (2nd in Ham’s, 4th in the UB) refers to the inherently political reformation of our world as we move toward a new social order, one directed best by a Magisterial Son. The last phase in both Ham’s description and the UB’s, is the “kingdom in its fullness”, best directed by those who always preside over the inauguration of a genuinely spiritual age.
Gratefully,
Rob
1. celestial - a) relating to the sky or outer space, b) relating to heaven, c) supremely good.
"heaven and earth” have passed away in whom these terms no longer function as separate categories of experience.
Greetings Rob, it looks like you are receiving plenty of input on a revised draft so I’ll keep it short. First, can you direct me to where this “Historical background to the Dialogues” is located on the Daynal sight and second, I have always referred to the “textual artifacts or Dialogs, as you refer to them, as the Teaching Mission Transcripts. The term transcript to describe these texts is well known throughout the Team Community. If we are trying to keep some sort of continuity in thought, wouldn’t it be more fitting to use the phrase Teaching Mission Transcripts to describe these gems of communication between the seen and the unseen?
Greetings Rob, it looks like you are receiving plenty of input on a revised draft so I’ll keep it short. First, can you direct me to where this “Historical background to the Dialogues” is located on the Daynal sight and second, I have always referred to the “textual artifacts or Dialogs, as you refer to them, as the Teaching Mission Transcripts. The term transcript to describe these texts is well known throughout the Team Community. If we are trying to keep some sort of continuity in thought, wouldn’t it be more fitting to use the phrase Teaching Mission Transcripts to describe these gems of communication between the seen and the unseen?
'''Rob wrote: November 4, 2015 at 5:51pm'''
Hello Marty -
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I believe your question is answered in the affirmative, but I say this only on the basis of oral legend.
You will have seen I am averse to using the term celestial for members of the Teacher Corps. However, I will consider it. It may be redundant in the copy for historical background once the short description of the Teaching Mission is included in the next draft. We’ll see.
Mention is made in the second paragraph that all persons contacted were Urantia Book readers. Mentioning the words Urantia Book three times in close proximity might be a bit wordy, but we’ll see.
Though I feel constrained to adhere closely to the original text of Ham’s words when in quotation marks, I do take your point about “to as many as would desire”. I’ll think about it and may elect to remove the quotation marks.
You may have noted in my last reply to Byron the meanings associated with the “phases”. Certainly, a supreme magistrate (Magisterial Son) will be essential to political and social reformation, but the kingdom in its fullness characterized as a spiritual age is inaugurated by Teacher Sons. However, we are witnessing all three orders of Paradise Sons operating simultaneously in this “Correcting Time”.
Gratefully,
Rob
'''Rob wrote: November 4, 2015 at 5:51pm'''
P.s. Though I am averse to the term celestial teachers, I have found a number of references by members of the Teacher Corps using this term. In my own experience, I have never heard it used by teachers addressing me. Instead, I have listened to them emphasizing our equality, if not in experience, in value to our Father.
FYI, for now the words “Celestial Teachers” redirects to the term Teacher Corps where they are described simply as “the group of teachers assigned to the work of the Teaching Mission.
I will soon be working on the next draft, and will see what I can do to accommodate the requests here while honoring my own experience that tends to find ‘terrestrials’ assuming the posture of the advanced apes approaching the monolith in the movie 2001: Space Odyssey when approaching those they deem to be ‘celestials’.
'''Byron wrote: November 4, 2015 at 12:48pm'''
'''Byron wrote: November 4, 2015 at 12:48pm'''
The reason I originally asked this question is that I refer to the collection of communications in the archives as transcripts when introducing someone to the Teaching Mission. If I where to refer to this collection as dialogs, it would most likely come across that I was referring to a collection of audio recordings as the term dialog would infer. To us more advanced students the term dialog would be more appropriate when we have a personal inner communication with any one of the myriad of celestial entities reading to commune with us at a moments notice.
The reason I originally asked this question is that I refer to the collection of communications in the archives as transcripts when introducing someone to the Teaching Mission. If I where to refer to this collection as dialogs, it would most likely come across that I was referring to a collection of audio recordings as the term dialog would infer. To us more advanced students the term dialog would be more appropriate when we have a personal inner communication with any one of the myriad of celestial entities reading to commune with us at a moments notice.
'''Rob wrote: November 4, 2015 at 5:52pm'''
Hello Rick -
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
The “Historical background to the Dialogues” is not found on the Daynal site, not yet anyway. It is drawn from my introduction to the book Sutras for a New World.
The Teaching Mission Transcripts is not a proper name that I know of. However, Teaching Mission transcripts would refer to any written or printed copies of a teacher session where the oral record was made first by audio recording and later transcribed into a printed record. Such practice characterized the early stage even before the Internet, and I do have a large number of “transcripts” that have yet to be uploaded into digital files online.
The term “The Teaching Mission: Dialogues” was employed by me initially to distinguish from the name Teaching Mission Archives where preoccupation with material artifacts took on an obsessive nature much to the detriment of the Teaching Mission. Hence, I sought to utilize a term recognizing the inherently fluid nature of their origin.
Gratefully,
Rob
===November 5===
'''Marty wrote: November 5, 2015 at 8:34am'''
Our Teaching Mission Teachers are celestials.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/celestial
Marty
'''Rob wrote: November 5, 2015 at 2:53pm'''
Thanks Marty! These are the same I supplied in my earlier reply to Byron.
'''Rob wrote: November 5, 2015 at 3:30pm'''
You’re welcome Byron. As a point of fact, Daynal Institute is not a public trust, at least not yet, while “TMArchives” is a public trust, established by me and approved for that purpose by legal authorities. Of course, this only shows how legal terminology can operate as a contradiction, and, for those inclined to see through the fog, a source of humor. This ‘dialogue’ is an exercise in developing the capacity of persons touched so deeply by the teachers we love, to see if we might be able to differ in the face of our common experience and produce a statement together.
You may not have read my reply to Marty after replying to you. There you might have discerned an adjustment in my efforts to craft an acceptable document representative of our shared experience that I have yet to submit. Then again, as you say, reading is an exercise in interpretation since words are twice removed from their source. Because we see around us only what we hold within us, it may be that we ‘see’ things that aren’t ‘there' such as the word “Naperville” where it is not or quoting “equality of experience” when instead it is written is "equality of value".
I am not averse to using the terminology that I recognize is in general use even if I reserve the right to have my own opinion about it, something all here are entitled to hold, and hopefully, feel free to express, confident that others are able to listen to that which is deeper than the words will ever reach and respond accordingly.
'''Rob wrote: November 5, 2015 at 3:49pm'''
You’re welcome Rick! Of course, you do well to refer to the collection as ‘transcripts’ since that is what they are. However, since the goal of material things is to deepen the experience of spiritual value, it is hoped that persons might move into deeper water than merely reading transcripts, and deeper than conversing with their teacher(s) even to the supreme pleasure of being in communion with the source of all things, meanings, and values.
I am preparing for meetings with the webmaster, but will supply the third draft as soon as I can. In it I hope to use the word ‘celestial’ in a way that will satisfy all even while knowing that the purpose of the Teaching Mission is to heal the acute sense of separation operating here between humanity and divinity e.g. terrestrial and celestial.
'''Rob wrote: November 5, 2015 at 8:33pm'''
'''3rd Draft'''
Dear Friends,
Enclosed is the 3rd draft that incorporates language from the FAQ as an introductory statement. It addresses the concerns about the use of ‘celestial’, and I have incorporated its use elsewhere in the “historical introduction”. I am happy to continue this exercise as long as it takes to obtain a satisfactory result before and after the page is 'finished'. As ever, your comments are an essential part of this exercise.
Gratefully,
Rob
ps. to see it formatted in the wiki environment, follow [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Robert_Davis#The_Teaching_Mission this link]. (it fits into one wiki page, an important objective)
==The Teaching Mission==
While each participant will have a different description of this world-wide [[Teaching Mission]], essentially, it is an avenue of personal spiritual experience. Individuals, in their private devotions may experience contact with supermortal guides, or "teachers” who are advanced enough in their own spiritual growth and cosmic evolution to be a lofty inspiration to us, and yet, they remain greatly empathetic and supportive of our personal struggles with soul growth.
We believe that there are a host of intelligent, loving, celestial agencies ministering to our world. One such group of celestial beings who work together for humanity's spiritual progress call themselves [[Teacher Corps|teachers of the Teaching Mission]] or the [[Correcting Time]]. The Correcting Time is said to encompass roughly the next millennium of human history, a time for correcting the consequences of calamities and deprivations of the past, and preparation for an era of heightened spiritual progress in the future--the era of [[Light and Life]] on Earth.
==Historical Background==
In 1984, formal contact with a group of persons began in [[New Zealand TeaM|New Zealand]] where the biblical personality known as [[Abraham]] began acting as a group teacher. By the late 1980’s, additional celestial teachers were found contacting groups in the United States who, unlike the New Zealand group, were all [[Urantia Book]] readers.
The record suggests that the contact with a [[Woods Cross TeaM|group in Utah]] by the teacher [[Ham]] was among the first, and afterwards grew into a network of small groups in the United States and eventually throughout the world. Typically, these were characterized by the study of The Urantia Book as a basic text.
In early 1992, the teacher Ham made [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-02-01-Ham_To_General_Council#Announcement an announcement] to the General Council of the Urantia Brotherhood, then the only organization sponsoring study of the Urantia text. In this meeting on February 1, 1992 in Los Angeles, California in advance of a general conference of the Urantia Brotherhood, Ham described the Teaching Mission as follows:
1) The initiation and expansion of the Teacher Corps to as many would desire to receive personal instruction. The mortals brought under their teaching and guidance will become teachers themselves, as themselves, not in an intermediary position as is the ‘transmitter’ tonight. Spiritual enlightenment on individual, group, national, and planetary scale is anticipated.
2) Along with the spiritual uplifting, we anticipate and desire cooperation in other areas of human life endeavor as well, chiefly economic, political, social, environmental, and technical changes.
3) The third aspect of our Teaching Mission is preparation for an even greater Teacher. [[Michael]] has prepared the way. We are expanding the way. A [[Teacher Son]] will complete the way toward Light and Life on Urantia.
While this announcement was [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-02-01-Ham_To_General_Council#Dialogue met with skepticism] it was described by Teaching Mission participants who were present as a “great success”. Nearly another decade of lessons were received before [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2000-09-15-The_Magisterial_Son_Is_Here#Magisterial_Mission.2C_Attunement further announcements] of the inauguration of what the Urantia text describes as a [[Magisterial Mission]] was to occur that may correspond to the second phase cited in Ham’s announcement and alluded to in one of his [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1991-Ham,_Complete_Archives,_Part_1#Magisterial_Mission early lessons].
The following collection is offered to the public simply as evidence, that at best, points to a greater body of teaching yet to be received, but available to any who would make the time required to learn to recognize the [[Thought Adjuster|still, small voice within]].
==See also==
*'''''[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Teaching_Mission:_Dialogues#FAQ Teaching Mission FAQ’s]'''''
