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Wait until you read the unpublished volumes of "[http://store.innertraditions.com/isbn/978-1-59143-125-1 Return of the Rebel Angels]". It makes this document read like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_and_andy Amos 'n Andy]
 
Wait until you read the unpublished volumes of "[http://store.innertraditions.com/isbn/978-1-59143-125-1 Return of the Rebel Angels]". It makes this document read like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_and_andy Amos 'n Andy]
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'''Gerdean wrote:  Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:36 PM'''
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I will probably not be able to read them.  I have Timothy's new book about the return of the rebel angels and I am having an impossible time getting into it.  I am not amused.  :-)
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'''Gerdean wrote:  Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM'''
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The thing about Timothy, however, is that he was politic enough to not identify himself with the Teaching Mission.  He stands on his own experience.  Our transmissions were not used as a base upon which he could build himself a platform. 
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'''John F. Kimble wrote: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:59 AM'''
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GREAT JOB RON!!  I no longer stand confused and concerned about you.  I now SEE and realize the TRUTH that: What One Is "Open" to - One CAN Receive."  It's that simple.  You see,  I know ALL things are possible in God's "creative" Universe.
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Your abilities prove this IS so.  One just has to be "OPEN" to the possibilities and you that fairly well.
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I understand now that if ALL the T/Rs out there would just be "OPEN" to ALL transmissions of Light coming in, like what we received from our brothers from SuperUniverse number 6, you would NOT be the only one receiving these transmissions.  I get that now.
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Being "OPEN TO RECEIVE" is key.  It's that simple!
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Keep up the good work Ron and leave the "discernment" up to the reader.
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Good Job
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STuTe
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Sent from my iPad
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'''Joseph Pick wrote:  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:59 AM'''
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I feel like a super christian.....
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'''Marty Greenhut wrote: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM'''
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Dear Gerdean,
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All of the paradigm's in our understanding of reality are constantly being challenged.
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The world used to be a flat surface on which you could fall off the edge.
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The Sun used to orbit the earth.
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Woman was once made from a man's rib.
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Etc.
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Now we are being prepared to meet our divine and celestial guardians who were heretofore unseen and we are being prepared to meet our ascending mortal brothers and sisters who are here in their ships.
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We are notified of our planetary destiny and our future in abundance, peace and the joy of Father's love.
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People were excommunicated, jailed, thrown into pits, burned at the stake, tortured and ridiculed for pronouncing changes in the accepted paradigms of humanity.
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You have the privilege to introduce new discoveries on the cutting edge of planetary revelation.
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Let those who scoff have their day. Here's a quote from Teacher Tomas on Lightline 11/1/12:
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"..... you might also see the value of patience when it comes to those who are so fired up, energetic, adamant, and unyielding about what they feel...."
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If Ron and Felix are on a fantasy trip of some kind, we will surely find out the truth, for truth is eternal and indestructible while fantasy and error simply disappear.
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In Father's love,
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Marty
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'''Jim Cleveland wrote:  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM'''
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Hi,
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The Teaching Mission has been under fire in the U.S. since it was announced in the U.S., in 1991 I believe. We have been 'nefarious channelers' ever since.
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Ron comes along many years later, after years of near seclusion making his connection in PA. No doubt the MM adds fuel to the fire of critics since it is also the product of nefarious channeling and includes many of the same suspects. But our critics have always been here.
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So be it, then. It is what it is.
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I hate that any real interest in personal spiritual growth and making personal connections with teachers seems to have been sidetracked by interest in the coming phenomena.
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Well, let it arrive. I've been reading threshold pronouncements from the ET and Galactic agencies for years and years now. Now I hear them from within our own ranks. My patience and credulity is wearing thin.
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Let it be. But don't expect any patience from me on some curve ball change of plans based on our spiritual unreadiness, lack of good energy, or circuitry pollution or Father just mysteriously changed his mind stuff.
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It's a finite world here. Let's get on with it.
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Celestials have defaulted here as much as humans ever could. Let's have the Correcting Time head-on. There's no reasoning with the money-hoarding richies who have stopped the world cold while they pile up all the wealth. Send in the celestial cavalry; I'll gladly give up my agondonter status.
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'''Rob Davis wrote: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM'''
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Hello Gerdean-
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I appreciate that you recognize the value of distinguishing between personal experience and an official representation of what we know as the Teaching Mission. It is an important distinction, but the ever present conundrum of "The Teaching Mission" is that it is a personal spiritual experience attested to by many individuals inhabiting a profoundly fragmented world.
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I am grateful for the experience all the more.
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'''Michelle Duchemin wrote: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM'''
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Love.
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We should start from within our circle and love one another, even when we don't believe another's experience can be real. Whether it is real or not, we will soon know, so this isn't really an issue at all in the greater scheme of things.
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To argue that some of it is real and some is not, before finding out, is divisive and splinters us into so many sub groups, rendering anything we do that much more ineffective. If we are a splintered group, and we are, THAT is what makes the difference in credibility to the outside world because WE are totally unable to do the one thing God wants us to do: Love one another! THAT is the neon sign blinking so brightly.
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Imagine if Ron and Felix are correct and it's finally a reality coming?
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Imagine if Ron and Felix are mistaken and how much love they will need from us afterwards to heal from this mistake?
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I don't imagine God or Angels are ever behind ridicule, anger, and worries about "saving face" to the outside world at the expense of love for our brethren.
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The truth is, ALL so-called "channeling" is thought of as ridiculous (mental illness) or evil (it's the devil lying to us), or simple fraud, to most of the outside world.  In my own opinion, it is not really possible to convince most people that this sort of thing is real unless they themselves experience it. I don't believe Ron and Felix's posts can break anything because it's all already beyond mainstream religion, just like NDE, OBE, famous channelers, and the like. Trying to make people believe in this is futile.
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So, then how to attract more followers? IMHO, it is as simple as living the lessons given about loving one another, and about teaching the way JESUS taught! It's about reaching out to break down walls between faiths, and not putting up walls within our own! It's a question about what you want the neon sign to be saying- what the outside world sees and WILL respond to: Love.
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Love and peace,
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Michelle
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'''Ginny wrote:  Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:47 PM'''
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This world has to be fixed, no doubt about that. Can anyone imagine the complexity of this task? Can anyone come up with another scheme? It's not a simple task,. Multitudes of beings would have to be involved. Why not this one? I suspect that no matter whose scheme comes up, there will be naysayers. Our insight is so limited that  any plan to bring this planet to Light and life will be suspect. We simply cannot comprehend the reasons behind all these plans. This one seems to be very well explained and I trust those whose wisdom and knowledge can bring us through......hopefully..........Ginny
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'''Oliver Deux wrote: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:46 PM'''
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Dear Ones:
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Why should one consider if the words of another are correct, when we have been gifted with ready-to-go access to the Spirit of Truth, just for the wanting to make contact, just for sitting still and saying, 'Hey, Creator Brother, I want to know you... and this and that...'
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What is beyond my paygrade is not for me to know now in this electro-chemical body. I have eternity to find out how everything works. Write now I am here to practice to love each on my path, and that is so much more important and difficult than producing and reading spi-fi.
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I have already transmitted with one dear brother, before he was diagnosed with the complex mental disfunction of bipolar disorder, with distinct phases of hypomenia and debilitating depression. We never published his gigantically imaginative spi-fi, and it was superb reading, and contained amazing stories for genre screenwriters. His ability to create names and groups and orders and places was sheer unlimited
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So, if it is beyond my paygrade, a guy who still introduces The Urantia Book as sci-fi to people who get off on imaginary people and worlds and universes, I first check with my truth center within.
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But today, a little help came my way from our brother in Australia, and I am inclined to say, it brought me right on the track that I know I should be on. I know this because I listen to what my truth center acknowledges as truth for me. And it is entirely possible, and makes total sense, since each of us is at a different level of spiritual development, that the verified truth that we can recognize differs somewhat for each of us.
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Here now, siblings, may I present Sharmon and George. I thank both of them!!!    Oliver
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Illawarra District, Australia, October 13, 2012.
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Midwayer Messenger Sharmon (MNO-6).
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Subject: “Revelation, Prophesy and Gross Error” (part transmit only).
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Received by George Barnard.
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George: “Might we ever progress to be sharp enough to detect your perfume, I wonder. I guess you have a message relating to what so many of us feel. Fire away, I invite you.”
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Sharmon: “Likely you will perceive my contagious charm before my excellent perfume, my dear friend, for we are one at heart, and in mind and motivation, and all that is set to produce progress is a ‘never-to-forget news item’ to us both. This is your friend for all eternity, Sharmon, the sixth offspring of the MNO family, greeting all those present, and all who will receive these words from me and my clan. Let it not be said that we are either unaware of the goings on on Urantia, or fail to note your needs for occasional clarification.
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“There has been a great deal of chatter about revelation in months gone past, leaving many with the thoughts that the local universe Creator has thrown up his arms in despair and greater minds must now resolve an impasse of Urantia going to wreck and ruin. However, a great future awaits both, the planet, and its time-space (evolutionary) deity, Gaia, whom we all serve. It is needless for you to consider that our esteemed Creator and Employer, Michael, and our Planetary Prince and Instructor, Machiventa, be at a loss to push forward.
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“You humans, our tender-hearted little puppies, are hardly designed to be inundated with revelation of the kind – not any kind – that will throw you off of a psychological-intellectual cliff, as happened of late. We do not ever ‘bathe you in news’ of massive changes, calamities, and certainly not of new rules that are one-off, first-up digressions in universe routine. It hasn’t, doesn’t, and will not happen in the way portrayed by some, and there is no way in which the universe can here be forced to act in response to calculated, devious human design.
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“You are human, hardly yet experts at living suitably balanced time-space lives in which you can adequately cope with terrestrial routine and its changes without becoming a menace to yourselves and myriad others. Your history is one of blatant examples of careless experimenting with anything that flouts the obvious will of the Father Creator. And besides, what allows you to conclude that you be allowed details of such far-reaching revelation, when Midwayers and Angels are left in the dark and must progress by faith alone?
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“When it comes to revelation, you are allocated a mere ‘grain of reality’ at any time. When it comes to prophesy expect a morsel of truth to be contained therein, and when it comes to endless banter of a changing of the Celestial Guard, expect gross error. I am Sharmon, a humble midwayer messenger.”
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George: “Your puppies thank you.”
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© The 11:11 Progress Group.
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Try coming out of the shadows, a little at the time—TA.
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