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==Heading==
===Topic: ''Education re The Teaching Mission''===
===Group: [[At Large]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Mantoube]]===
===TR: [[Jim Cleveland]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
Education re the [[Teaching Mission]] continues. I am cutting and pasting our recent [[dialogue]] with Minister Pato Banton. Most people likely missed all of my responses and also a transmission from Mantoube Melchizedek. So here it is and, of course, you are free to disagree with anything I say. It's only the product of my [[mind]], not the universal one.
===Lesson===
Jim Cleveland: Hello Pato and all, and thanks for activating this [[discussion]]. Over the years, I've confirmed dramatically the [[root]] lesson of the Teaching Mission -- the symbolic tap root from which grew an oak, with various branches. Stay with the root. what appears now to be the Seed. the one great [[Revelation]] of the TM -- that [[individuals]] can go into [[quiet]], dedicated times of [[worship]], [[love]] and open mind and receive direct, tailored spiritual [[guidance]], day by day. Dump the internet [[gurus]]. [[Morontia teachers]], [[Melchizedeks]] and [[Celestial Artisans]] are open to serve and co-create with you. Yes. but .... how does this connection [[influence]] the various minds of the [[TR|receptors]].
In a growing [[community]] of 100 or so transmitters in a community, can one man's [[imagination]] run amok that he can lead many into a [[fantasy]] world of [[prophecy]] and falsehoods and ultimate [[confusion]]. We didn't learn the basic lesson. [[Ron Besser|Mr. Besser]] destroyed much to the TM core with his misdirections. But .... we have been repeatedly told by [[the teachers]] to evaluate all of the secondary material carefully and rely fullly on the Spiritual Mind you have developed via [[Stillness]].
Summary: Learning to access one's own spiritual guides is the only sure way to sure [[truth]] in a world of minds that are bogged down by myopic partisans and paycheck [[preachers]]. I respect Donna and the quest to develop spiritual [[consciousness]]. Beyond that, your Q/A report raises questions too. More later ...
The [[Teaching Mission]] is about finding spiritual answers within your [[spirit]]. [[Express]] concerns within and listen calmly. Do NOT [[think]]. Do NOT think. Do NOT think. Open in peace to the [[words]] that come and record them in the [[flow]] that replaces your Analytics. It works, can't fully explain why. I trust my transmissions in this [[super-conscious]] state. This is where seekers should go, not to me. Can I validate this for you? Don't think so. I have nothing to do with it. Shall we have a validation question? Are Christ [[Michael]]'s flubbed answers view based on new [[insights]] and details for a 2016 audience, material not found in the measuring stick [[Urantia Book]] of 1955? Which spiritual [[personality]] should be called upon for a validating question and is it appropriate? We shall see .... It seems that my [[Melchizedek]] [[mentor]] takes this as a question per our previous call for questions so will respond. I need to get into an open framework to type up his sentences cleanly ....
Mantoube: Dear Pato and ALL [[souls]], I am Mantoube, a Melchizedek. As always, I strive to be concise while being [[clear]]. We regard you, yourself, and your [[loyal]] cast, as our source of spiritual truth and celestial [[communications]]. You are in [[touch]] with the deepest spiritual [[truths]] and have a dramatic means of [[expression]]. We are not looking for people to sit down and [[channel]] lessons in a room; we are looking for [[action]]. So much to do to bring [[this planet]] to [[light and life]] over coming [[generations]]. With the [[Lucifer Rebellion|quarantine]] lifted in the rebellion worlds, our expanded mission has been the development of a higher level of spiritual [[consciousness]] and cosmic awareness in vast numbers of [[ascending]] souls. This direct connection supersedes evolving human [[dogma]] which is forever polluted with the erroneous us vs. them mentality. But even as higher spiritual [[insights]] are imbued into the [[human mind]], upon askance, it processes though that [[labyrinth]]ian baggage-laden mind in its own way, and thus a variety of resultant expressions. Learn to [[trust]] your own mind -- to [[receive]] purely. And know that our mission is entirely [[personal]] and should not twisted into partisan [[desires]] and demands. Too many people want celestial lessons to fit into their own agendas and conveniently come to consider that everything coming into their mind is from [[spirit]]. You must sift for what you should believe in other so-called transmissions. If it hasn't come to you directly and has amazingly come through some other human and intended for all humans to heed on [[this planet]], there comes the need for your [[logical]] mind to play a significant role in developing your spiritual acumen.
Jim Cleveland: (JWC again) And also ... re spiritual-celestial [[communications]] .... [[artists]] and [[authors]] tap into spirit-guided insights and [[express]] them abundantly in the world all the time. [[Orators]] and lyricists alike often tap into the de facto [[channeling]] of spiritual insights as they step forward and step on [[stage]] in service. The [[words]] and the message comes into them. As for most one-by-word trance channelers I have found their messages ring of [[Tbg|truth, beauty, goodness]] and sound personal advice for living in spirit. This is true over the years.
My true treasure chests of spiritual-related advice come from the [[Urantia Book]] -- who we are in the universe plan -- and the [[ACIM]] -- which explains our spirit identity -- and the [http://www.pathwork.org/lecturesObtaining.html Pathwork Foundation lectures] -- which provide great insight into living with one another in the world to bring about [[peace]] and [[progress]]. These are three Revelations in my view which provide a lodestone of advice that we can never completely [[understand]] and absorb in a lifetime here. There are other internet self-professed [[mystics]] who like to [[predict]] things. Truth: celestial personalities aren't interested in predicting events on our level. They know that the [[future]] is eternally created by the thoughts and actions of the world's human [[personalities]] in tandem. They are more concerned with guiding its directions onto fruitful [[paths]] to create a better future, and one that's [[attuned]] to 24-7 personal spiritual guidance.
===Closing===
And ..... Jim again, I would like to know what false [[information]] came from [[Michael]] re CCC. What is the 'validating' question that should be asked to a celestial? Does anyone else want to go into [[Stillness]] and seek an answer to this serious concern? We have been [[encouraged]] to do this for about 30 years now, and I wonder how much longer we will be going to other second-hand transmitting humans to get the guidance we want? Do we still have to go to someone who 'channels' with some kind of special [[power]] ... so that our [[spiritual growth]] must come through them? Again, logical thinking plays a role. [[Logic]] makes perfect spiritual sense.
Teaching and learning never cease in [[the Universe]] since that is it's [[purpose]]. No one, not even humans, are left out.
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
[[Category: At Large]]
[[Category: Mantoube]]
[[Category: Jim Cleveland]]
[[Category: Teaching Mission]]
[[Category: Discernment]]
[[Category: 2017]]
[[File:Teaching_buddha_small.jpg|right|frame]]
==Heading==
===Topic: ''Education re The Teaching Mission''===
===Group: [[At Large]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Mantoube]]===
===TR: [[Jim Cleveland]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
Education re the [[Teaching Mission]] continues. I am cutting and pasting our recent [[dialogue]] with Minister Pato Banton. Most people likely missed all of my responses and also a transmission from Mantoube Melchizedek. So here it is and, of course, you are free to disagree with anything I say. It's only the product of my [[mind]], not the universal one.
===Lesson===
Jim Cleveland: Hello Pato and all, and thanks for activating this [[discussion]]. Over the years, I've confirmed dramatically the [[root]] lesson of the Teaching Mission -- the symbolic tap root from which grew an oak, with various branches. Stay with the root. what appears now to be the Seed. the one great [[Revelation]] of the TM -- that [[individuals]] can go into [[quiet]], dedicated times of [[worship]], [[love]] and open mind and receive direct, tailored spiritual [[guidance]], day by day. Dump the internet [[gurus]]. [[Morontia teachers]], [[Melchizedeks]] and [[Celestial Artisans]] are open to serve and co-create with you. Yes. but .... how does this connection [[influence]] the various minds of the [[TR|receptors]].
In a growing [[community]] of 100 or so transmitters in a community, can one man's [[imagination]] run amok that he can lead many into a [[fantasy]] world of [[prophecy]] and falsehoods and ultimate [[confusion]]. We didn't learn the basic lesson. [[Ron Besser|Mr. Besser]] destroyed much to the TM core with his misdirections. But .... we have been repeatedly told by [[the teachers]] to evaluate all of the secondary material carefully and rely fullly on the Spiritual Mind you have developed via [[Stillness]].
Summary: Learning to access one's own spiritual guides is the only sure way to sure [[truth]] in a world of minds that are bogged down by myopic partisans and paycheck [[preachers]]. I respect Donna and the quest to develop spiritual [[consciousness]]. Beyond that, your Q/A report raises questions too. More later ...
The [[Teaching Mission]] is about finding spiritual answers within your [[spirit]]. [[Express]] concerns within and listen calmly. Do NOT [[think]]. Do NOT think. Do NOT think. Open in peace to the [[words]] that come and record them in the [[flow]] that replaces your Analytics. It works, can't fully explain why. I trust my transmissions in this [[super-conscious]] state. This is where seekers should go, not to me. Can I validate this for you? Don't think so. I have nothing to do with it. Shall we have a validation question? Are Christ [[Michael]]'s flubbed answers view based on new [[insights]] and details for a 2016 audience, material not found in the measuring stick [[Urantia Book]] of 1955? Which spiritual [[personality]] should be called upon for a validating question and is it appropriate? We shall see .... It seems that my [[Melchizedek]] [[mentor]] takes this as a question per our previous call for questions so will respond. I need to get into an open framework to type up his sentences cleanly ....
Mantoube: Dear Pato and ALL [[souls]], I am Mantoube, a Melchizedek. As always, I strive to be concise while being [[clear]]. We regard you, yourself, and your [[loyal]] cast, as our source of spiritual truth and celestial [[communications]]. You are in [[touch]] with the deepest spiritual [[truths]] and have a dramatic means of [[expression]]. We are not looking for people to sit down and [[channel]] lessons in a room; we are looking for [[action]]. So much to do to bring [[this planet]] to [[light and life]] over coming [[generations]]. With the [[Lucifer Rebellion|quarantine]] lifted in the rebellion worlds, our expanded mission has been the development of a higher level of spiritual [[consciousness]] and cosmic awareness in vast numbers of [[ascending]] souls. This direct connection supersedes evolving human [[dogma]] which is forever polluted with the erroneous us vs. them mentality. But even as higher spiritual [[insights]] are imbued into the [[human mind]], upon askance, it processes though that [[labyrinth]]ian baggage-laden mind in its own way, and thus a variety of resultant expressions. Learn to [[trust]] your own mind -- to [[receive]] purely. And know that our mission is entirely [[personal]] and should not twisted into partisan [[desires]] and demands. Too many people want celestial lessons to fit into their own agendas and conveniently come to consider that everything coming into their mind is from [[spirit]]. You must sift for what you should believe in other so-called transmissions. If it hasn't come to you directly and has amazingly come through some other human and intended for all humans to heed on [[this planet]], there comes the need for your [[logical]] mind to play a significant role in developing your spiritual acumen.
Jim Cleveland: (JWC again) And also ... re spiritual-celestial [[communications]] .... [[artists]] and [[authors]] tap into spirit-guided insights and [[express]] them abundantly in the world all the time. [[Orators]] and lyricists alike often tap into the de facto [[channeling]] of spiritual insights as they step forward and step on [[stage]] in service. The [[words]] and the message comes into them. As for most one-by-word trance channelers I have found their messages ring of [[Tbg|truth, beauty, goodness]] and sound personal advice for living in spirit. This is true over the years.
My true treasure chests of spiritual-related advice come from the [[Urantia Book]] -- who we are in the universe plan -- and the [[ACIM]] -- which explains our spirit identity -- and the [http://www.pathwork.org/lecturesObtaining.html Pathwork Foundation lectures] -- which provide great insight into living with one another in the world to bring about [[peace]] and [[progress]]. These are three Revelations in my view which provide a lodestone of advice that we can never completely [[understand]] and absorb in a lifetime here. There are other internet self-professed [[mystics]] who like to [[predict]] things. Truth: celestial personalities aren't interested in predicting events on our level. They know that the [[future]] is eternally created by the thoughts and actions of the world's human [[personalities]] in tandem. They are more concerned with guiding its directions onto fruitful [[paths]] to create a better future, and one that's [[attuned]] to 24-7 personal spiritual guidance.
===Closing===
And ..... Jim again, I would like to know what false [[information]] came from [[Michael]] re CCC. What is the 'validating' question that should be asked to a celestial? Does anyone else want to go into [[Stillness]] and seek an answer to this serious concern? We have been [[encouraged]] to do this for about 30 years now, and I wonder how much longer we will be going to other second-hand transmitting humans to get the guidance we want? Do we still have to go to someone who 'channels' with some kind of special [[power]] ... so that our [[spiritual growth]] must come through them? Again, logical thinking plays a role. [[Logic]] makes perfect spiritual sense.
Teaching and learning never cease in [[the Universe]] since that is it's [[purpose]]. No one, not even humans, are left out.
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
[[Category: At Large]]
[[Category: Mantoube]]
[[Category: Jim Cleveland]]
[[Category: Teaching Mission]]
[[Category: Discernment]]
[[Category: 2017]]
