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E1: Yes, Now in [[reference]] to all that, can you [[explain]] what the next [[dispensation]] would be in order for them to [[wake]] up? And then decide whether they want to go on with [[the Father]] or not. When would be the next [[dispensation]] for them?

E1: Yes, Now in [[reference]] to all that, can you [[explain]] what the next [[dispensation]] would be in order for them to [[wake]] up? And then decide whether they want to go on with [[the Father]] or not. When would be the next [[dispensation]] for them?

Iruka: [[Dispensations]] are not scheduled as far as time frames. They happen with certain [[events]]. The last dispensation was in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984 1984] when the [[Lucifer rebellion]] was [[adjudicated]]. At that time, all the [[sleeping souls]] were [[awakened]] and found they had [[different]] [[bodies]], and were in a new place. And began learning the ways of [[the Father]]. There are guides there to help them, to [[explain]] to them what has happened to them, and who they are and what is happening. Is this [[explaining]].....

Iruka: [[Dispensations]] are not scheduled as far as time frames. They happen with certain [[events]]. The last dispensation was in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984 1984] when the [[Lucifer rebellion]] was [[adjudicated]]. At that time, all the [[sleeping souls]] were [[awakened]] and found they had [[different]] [[bodies]], and were in a new place. And began learning the ways of [[the Father]]. There are guides there to help them, to [[explain]] to them what has happened to them, and who they are and what is happening. Is this [[explaining]].....

E1: Yes, very much so. As a matter of [[fact]], when something occurs on the [[spiritual]] world, for example the [[adjudication]], and you have a [[group]] of people that are [[sleeping]] is that when you [[decide]] well this is something to [[celebrate]] and see if they want to go on with [[the Father]] or if they want to end it right there. In other [[words]], since it doesn't have a time schedule do you make it a matter of a certain [[event]] like the [[adjudication]] that occurred in '84?

E1: Yes, very much so. As a matter of [[fact]], when something occurs on the [[spiritual]] world, for example the [[adjudication]], and you have a [[group]] of people that are [[sleeping]] is that when you [[decide]] well this is something to [[celebrate]] and see if they want to go on with [[the Father]] or if they want to end it right there. In other [[words]], since it doesn't have a time schedule do you make it a matter of a certain [[event]] like the [[adjudication]] that occurred in '84?

Iruka: Absolutely, it is an [[event]] and back to your comment about them then [[deciding]], they have time, it is not a sort of thing where you have two hours to [[think]] about this. It is a [[process]] of their [[individual]] [[growth]]. They are very much like in [[kindergarten]] and they have as much time as they need. Then when they [[decide]], then they begin their walk with [[the Father]]. I just wanted to make that comment.

Iruka: Absolutely, it is an [[event]] and back to your comment about them then [[deciding]], they have time, it is not a sort of thing where you have two hours to [[think]] about this. It is a [[process]] of their [[individual]] [[growth]]. They are very much like in [[kindergarten]] and they have as much time as they need. Then when they [[decide]], then they begin their walk with [[the Father]]. I just wanted to make that comment.

E1: Ok, so this [[Sleeping survivors|sleeping]]...in other words they are not necessarily in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation] doing nothing. Are they like going over their life that they have just completed, and in so doing they [[realize]] something else was occurring within them [[spiritually]]? That they didn't notice while they were here on [[Urantia]]? And at that point of let's say an [[event]] something within them makes them [[realize]] that it was more to it than just the [[physical]]?

E1: Ok, so this [[Sleeping survivors|sleeping]]...in other words they are not necessarily in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation] doing nothing. Are they like going over their life that they have just completed, and in so doing they [[realize]] something else was occurring within them [[spiritually]]? That they didn't notice while they were here on [[Urantia]]? And at that point of let's say an [[event]] something within them makes them [[realize]] that it was more to it than just the [[physical]]?

Iruka: It is as how you put it [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation]. They are not [[aware]], they are not [[thinking]]. When they die and then when there is a [[dispensation]] and they [[awaken]] in a new [[body]] it is like a second, they do not sense a loss of time. They are not [[conscious]] of how many years. So no to your answer, they are not [[considering]] their life or [[thinking]] about [[God]], they are not. They are (in) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation].

Iruka: It is as how you put it [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation]. They are not [[aware]], they are not [[thinking]]. When they die and then when there is a [[dispensation]] and they [[awaken]] in a new [[body]] it is like a second, they do not sense a loss of time. They are not [[conscious]] of how many years. So no to your answer, they are not [[considering]] their life or [[thinking]] about [[God]], they are not. They are (in) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspended_animation suspended animation].

E1: What is it about this [[sleeping]] period then that makes them eligible for this next [[body]] if they had no [[idea]] before they left [[Urantia]] and at the time that they are sleeping they are not [[thinking]] about anything, but up until some [[event]] they are then given a [[body]]. They still haven't done anything to make them [[realize]] that they have this [[opportunity]] to be in a [[Morontia]] form. What is it then that occurs between their [[death]] and some [[event]] that will make them eligible to arise and have a [[Morontia]] form.

E1: What is it about this [[sleeping]] period then that makes them eligible for this next [[body]] if they had no [[idea]] before they left [[Urantia]] and at the time that they are sleeping they are not [[thinking]] about anything, but up until some [[event]] they are then given a [[body]]. They still haven't done anything to make them [[realize]] that they have this [[opportunity]] to be in a [[Morontia]] form. What is it then that occurs between their [[death]] and some [[event]] that will make them eligible to arise and have a [[Morontia]] form.

Iruka: Nothing, it is more an [[organizational]] happening. It is . ...this time is [[prepared]] for on this side for these [[individuals]] to do this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_masse#Not_used_as_such_in_French en-mass]. Is this [[clearer]]?

Iruka: Nothing, it is more an [[organizational]] happening. It is . ...this time is [[prepared]] for on this side for these [[individuals]] to do this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_masse#Not_used_as_such_in_French en-mass]. Is this [[clearer]]?

E1: Kind of so when they all arise at one time. And.....

E1: Kind of so when they all arise at one time. And.....

Iruka: Yes, it is accurate. Is there a specific question about a happening?

Iruka: Yes, it is accurate. Is there a specific question about a happening?

G2: When I was reading the [[Bible]], I had questions about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah Noah]. In the [[Urantia book]] it displays [[78:7 The Floods in Mesopotamia|Noah in a completely different light]]. And I was just wondering, if some of these [[translations]] of these [[writings]] might have been misconstrued. And the [[Urantia book]], did you notice any [[problems]] there with the books we have right now.

G2: When I was reading the [[Bible]], I had questions about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah Noah]. In the [[Urantia book]] it displays [[78:7 The Floods in Mesopotamia|Noah in a completely different light]]. And I was just wondering, if some of these [[translations]] of these [[writings]] might have been misconstrued. And the [[Urantia book]], did you notice any [[problems]] there with the books we have right now.

Iruka: Problems with which book, the [[Urantia book]]? or with the [[Bible]].

Iruka: Problems with which book, the [[Urantia book]]? or with the [[Bible]].

E1: Iruka, I would like you to [[explain]] the [[circuits]] and how they work in terms of reconnecting them to [[Urantia]] now that we are in proper [[alignment]] with the [[spiritual]]....whatever it is that is required.

E1: Iruka, I would like you to [[explain]] the [[circuits]] and how they work in terms of reconnecting them to [[Urantia]] now that we are in proper [[alignment]] with the [[spiritual]]....whatever it is that is required.

Iruka: I will do my best. But that might still leave you with [[questions]]. There are not [[words]] in the [[language]] to [[express]] some of the [[ideas]]. But think of them as [[power]] lines, when there was [[the rebellion]], they were all disconnected. It is hard for you to imagine how something that happens on [[this planet]] can influence many [[other planets]], but it does. So the [[circuits]] were disconnected so that the [[problems]] wouldn't spread. They did spread to a few places, but it could have been worse. So the [[power]] lines, so to speak, were down. Certain [[beings]] use these power [[circuits]], certainly not [[the Father]], the [[First Source and Center]], certainly not [[Creator Son|the Son]], or [[Mother Spirit|the Spirit]]. But other beings use these [[circuits]], so they were in many ways, cut off. Now they have to be reconnected, rewired, for the [[communications]] to start again. Or to start easier, more [[clearer]] (communications), and this takes time. This happened in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984 1984] and now there are a handful of [[groups]] using this [[communication]]. I know it seems like a long time in your [[time]] frame, it does not seem nearly that long on this side, but it does to [[humans]]. It is not some [[magical]] thing to reconnect [[circuits]]. It takes [[work]] and [[energy]] and time. So it is happening, not nearly as fast as you would like it to, I know, or even as fast as I would like it to, but it will happen. If you can [[think]] in the time of [[eternity]], it changes your [[perception]], your [[thinking]]. Of course I say this and I am on the other side. I know this is easier for me than for you. But it will happen. Does this help, even a little?

Iruka: I will do my best. But that might still leave you with [[questions]]. There are not [[words]] in the [[language]] to [[express]] some of the [[ideas]]. But think of them as [[power]] lines, when there was [[the rebellion]], they were all disconnected. It is hard for you to imagine how something that happens on [[this planet]] can influence many [[other planets]], but it does. So the [[circuits]] were disconnected so that the [[problems]] wouldn't spread. They did spread to a few places, but it could have been worse. So the [[power]] lines, so to speak, were down. Certain [[beings]] use these power [[circuits]], certainly not [[the Father]], the [[First Source and Center]], certainly not [[Creator Son|the Son]], or [[Mother Spirit|the Spirit]]. But other beings use these [[circuits]], so they were in many ways, cut off. Now they have to be reconnected, rewired, for the [[communications]] to start again. Or to start easier, more [[clearer]] (communications), and this takes time. This happened in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984 1984] and now there are a handful of [[groups]] using this [[communication]]. I know it seems like a long time in your [[time]] frame, it does not seem nearly that long on this side, but it does to [[humans]]. It is not some [[magical]] thing to reconnect [[circuits]]. It takes [[work]] and [[energy]] and time. So it is happening, not nearly as fast as you would like it to, I know, or even as fast as I would like it to, but it will happen. If you can [[think]] in the time of [[eternity]], it changes your [[perception]], your [[thinking]]. Of course I say this and I am on the other side. I know this is easier for me than for you. But it will happen. Does this help, even a little?

E1: Since the [[Paradise Trinity]] does not need the [[circuits]] of course [[beings]] like you and I would need the circuits but what other [[hierarchical]] beings use the circuits?

E1: Since the [[Paradise Trinity]] does not need the [[circuits]] of course [[beings]] like you and I would need the circuits but what other [[hierarchical]] beings use the circuits?