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===Topic: ''Celestial Discovery, 1''===
===Group: [[Sarasota TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[ALL]]===
===TR: [[ALL]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
[Editor’s Note: The Celestial Discovery Group superseded the Celestial Impressions Group of 1992 & The Englewood Florida Group broke out of the Celestial Impressions Group 1992]
1 JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
1 JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
FRIDAY, JANUARY 1, 1993
FRIDAY, JANUARY 1, 1993
HAPPY NEW YEAR
HAPPY NEW YEAR
I hope to do the Father's work. To be of service and to learn. Is there a message for me? I send my love and light to all. Julie
I hope to do the Father's work. To be of service and to learn. Is there a message for me? I send my love and light to all. Julie
====Lesson 1====
This is JoEl,
This is JoEl,
Aflana is working on these circuits. She will send you more pictures. Also she send you joy for the New year.
Aflana is working on these circuits. She will send you more pictures. Also she send you joy for the New year.
====Closing====
Keep planting and sending out seeds with love and light and love. We love you and are so happy that you are doing so well. Keep thinking of me, and get into the quiet more, and you will get more lessons.
Keep planting and sending out seeds with love and light and love. We love you and are so happy that you are doing so well. Keep thinking of me, and get into the quiet more, and you will get more lessons.
Thank you, JoEl. I appreciate these wonderful lessons. Short but so meaningful. Thank you again and again. My love, Julie.
Thank you, JoEl. I appreciate these wonderful lessons. Short but so meaningful. Thank you again and again. My love, Julie.
===Lesson 2===
====Opening====
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1993 (2:00 PM)
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1993 (2:00 PM)
Another beautiful day! I am willing and open to receive any mission or teachings. Are there any?
Another beautiful day! I am willing and open to receive any mission or teachings. Are there any?
====Lesson====
This JoEl:
This JoEl:
It gives me great pleasure to come into your life and teach you. With all the energies, it is time to go into the quiet and rest more. Pray and meditate, you will receive messages in picture. We love you - Love, Light, Life to you.
It gives me great pleasure to come into your life and teach you. With all the energies, it is time to go into the quiet and rest more. Pray and meditate, you will receive messages in picture. We love you - Love, Light, Life to you.
Thank you, JoEl. I love you too, Julie
Thank you, JoEl. I love you too, Julie
===Lesson 3===
2 MARY'S IMPRESSIONS
2 MARY'S IMPRESSIONS
JANUARY 2, 1993 (3:30 PM at home)
JANUARY 2, 1993 (3:30 PM at home)
====Opening====
Mary:Heavenly Father, this is Mary. I await a message from you or my unseen friends.
Mary:Heavenly Father, this is Mary. I await a message from you or my unseen friends.
====Lesson====
JaEL:This is JaEL. Greetings, Beloved One. Happy New Year. You live life, you experience life and during this year you will feel the joy in your heart and glory in the experience of your being. The physical side effect in your awareness are signs of progress in regeneration. You need to rest all that you can, along with our lessons and work. Do not worry about your loved ones or your friends. Just be and go about the Father's business. Those who need the lessons will be present. I am with you and you will have the knowledge and the answers. I love you and joyfully work with you.
JaEL:This is JaEL. Greetings, Beloved One. Happy New Year. You live life, you experience life and during this year you will feel the joy in your heart and glory in the experience of your being. The physical side effect in your awareness are signs of progress in regeneration. You need to rest all that you can, along with our lessons and work. Do not worry about your loved ones or your friends. Just be and go about the Father's business. Those who need the lessons will be present. I am with you and you will have the knowledge and the answers. I love you and joyfully work with you.
Mary:Thank you, JaEL. I love you. Bless you and thank you for being with me.
Mary:Thank you, JaEL. I love you. Bless you and thank you for being with me.
====Closing====
Michael:Rest easy, My Child. I am with you always. No harm shall come to you for you are protected. The lessons for this year is to love one another unconditionally - the key to this solution is not to expect anything in return, selfless love is bountifully blessed by God. -Michael
Michael:Rest easy, My Child. I am with you always. No harm shall come to you for you are protected. The lessons for this year is to love one another unconditionally - the key to this solution is not to expect anything in return, selfless love is bountifully blessed by God. -Michael
===Lesson 4===
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1993 (9 AM)
SATURDAY, JANUARY 2, 1993 (9 AM)
====Opening====
Dear Father,
Dear Father,
Lovingly, Patije
Lovingly, Patije
====Lesson====
LorEL:
LorEL:
It is an attitude of always looking at your daily experiences from the higher consciousness of cosmic citizenship and making choices according to what is good for all mankind - not just your self-centered world. When you can rise above material mind level into cosmic consciousness the sense of urgency emotional reaction fades and become sanity and you make healthy decisions which bring happiness.
It is an attitude of always looking at your daily experiences from the higher consciousness of cosmic citizenship and making choices according to what is good for all mankind - not just your self-centered world. When you can rise above material mind level into cosmic consciousness the sense of urgency emotional reaction fades and become sanity and you make healthy decisions which bring happiness.
===Lesson 5===
...midnight Saturday...
...midnight Saturday...
====Opening====
Dear Father, I have butterflies in my stomach - a feeling of "something is happening" which leaves me unsettled. What is coming?
Dear Father, I have butterflies in my stomach - a feeling of "something is happening" which leaves me unsettled. What is coming?
Lovingly, Patije
Lovingly, Patije
====Lesson====
Michael:
Michael: Dearest Child of my heart, you are picking up energies which alert you to an unfolding event which is happening on Urantia. Soon you will know and see with your own eyes that which you feel within your awareness now.
Dearest Child of my heart, you are picking up energies which alert you to an unfolding event which is happening on Urantia. Soon you will know and see with your own eyes that which you feel within your awareness now.
Have patience, Child. Your faith - as well as others - will one day receive the communication of what you now know that you know - and more. Chaos is part of the material sequence of events when whole civilizations are being moved from one place to another. You have experienced this in space. Soon you will experience this in time. Rejoice in this as your destiny. Be of good cheer! Go forth casting seeds of inspiration and expectation of Light and Life.
Have patience, Child. Your faith - as well as others - will one day receive the communication of what you now know that you know - and more. Chaos is part of the material sequence of events when whole civilizations are being moved from one place to another. You have experienced this in space. Soon you will experience this in time. Rejoice in this as your destiny. Be of good cheer! Go forth casting seeds of inspiration and expectation of Light and Life.
interrupted...
interrupted...
===Lesson 6===
CELESTIAL DISCOVERY GROUP 4
CELESTIAL DISCOVERY GROUP 4
MONDAY, JANUARY 3, 1993
MONDAY, JANUARY 3, 1993
====Opening====
We begin by sitting with our palms slightly apart but facing the person sitting next to us and then offer our prayers of thanksgiving, willingness to participate, invitation to the teachers and go into the stillness with our worship until the teachers begin to speak.
Patije:This is Patije. I greet the teachers and invite them while offering my services in any way.
Patije:This is Patije. I greet the teachers and invite them while offering my services in any way.
Lise:Ok.
Lise:Ok.
====Dialogue====
Aflana: (Patije)
Aflana: (Patije) The Light of God surrounds you, the Power of God protects you and the Love of God enfolds, uplifts and upholds you. Wherever you are, God is and all is well.
The Light of God surrounds you, the Power of God protects you and the Love of God enfolds, uplifts and upholds you. Wherever you are, God is and all is well.
Allene:Good evening, Aflana. (laughter)
Allene:Good evening, Aflana. (laughter)
Lise:Hello, Aflana.
Lise:Hello, Aflana.
Aflana:
Aflana:It is such a delight to be here with you. I look forward to this each Monday - and when you call in the days between. As you have heard, I have been visiting many groups. I went to Hawaii and talked to our friends there. I think they had a little trouble believing that I was so far from Sarasota...(laughter)
It is such a delight to be here with you. I look forward to this each Monday - and when you call in the days between. As you have heard, I have been visiting many groups. I went to Hawaii and talked to our friends there. I think they had a little trouble believing that I was so far from Sarasota...(laughter)
Allene:Aflana, this is Allene. I want to tell you how very thankful I am that while you are so busy visiting the other groups that you have continued to stay as one of our teachers.
Allene:Aflana, this is Allene. I want to tell you how very thankful I am that while you are so busy visiting the other groups that you have continued to stay as one of our teachers.
JuEL: (Lise)"On Monday nights, be together."
JuEL: (Lise)"On Monday nights, be together."
Aflana:
Aflana: It is light hearted enthusiastic response to one another and to the teachers that enables us to guide you to your potential and make you valuable in the corps when you are ready. You are to practice love because love is the most important of all lessons you can learn while upon this planet. The second to that is the detachment of your emotions. Control your emotions. Move into Love energy as often as you can and be aware! Be alert! and Practice. (pause) Would you like to practice now?
It is light hearted enthusiastic response to one another and to the teachers that enables us to guide you to your potential and make you valuable in the corps when you are ready. You are to practice love because love is the most important of all lessons you can learn while upon this planet. The second to that is the detachment of your emotions. Control your emotions. Move into Love energy as often as you can and be aware! Be alert! and Practice. (pause) Would you like to practice now?
Group:Yes. yes, yes.
Group:Yes. yes, yes.
Patije:Is there a reason, a..I don't want to use the word mandate, but would it be suggested that we begin a women's corps, like you had during the time you lived as Jesus upon the planet? (pause) Is that what we are?
Patije:Is there a reason, a..I don't want to use the word mandate, but would it be suggested that we begin a women's corps, like you had during the time you lived as Jesus upon the planet? (pause) Is that what we are?
Michael:
Michael: This is not necessary. Is there not already enough dissension between the sexes on your planet now?
This is not necessary. Is there not already enough dissension between the sexes on your planet now?
Lise:That is interesting.
Lise:That is interesting.
Lise:ohhh...
Lise:ohhh...
Michael:
Michael: Each one should move forward as they are directed. There will be many groups, there will be many things to be done.
Each one should move forward as they are directed. There will be many groups, there will be many things to be done.
Patije:What can we do for you, Michael? (short silence) Will I ever get all of my work done in the computer room?
Patije:What can we do for you, Michael? (short silence) Will I ever get all of my work done in the computer room?
Julie:It is all in blue, with red rays coming out...love energy...
Julie:It is all in blue, with red rays coming out...love energy...
Michael: (Allene):
Michael: (Allene): In answer to your question earlier, It would be good that each one of you continue to develop yourselves, learn more as you can about love and to share. It is good that you come together. You will gather more lambs unto me. As I have told you, I will be here for each that you bring to me. You now can rest assured. Allene, now you know, I will be here for each of them. (I'm not hearing the exact words, but I am picking up that each one of us will know when the time comes, what we can do. There is nothing to force ourselves or push ourselves into something we will know. Move forward gently, move in love, let your heart open up. You are doing well, my children. You are very precious to me. Each one of you is blossoming like a flower if you could only see how your petals are unfolding. Each has his own beauty. Each has his own uniqueness. You are each doing much to help me. And, in the days ahead, as the strength of your commitment grows, love from your heart pours forward, you will know the ways in which you can be of service.
In answer to your question earlier, It would be good that each one of you continue to develop yourselves, learn more as you can about love and to share. It is good that you come together. You will gather more lambs unto me. As I have told you, I will be here for each that you bring to me. You now can rest assured. Allene, now you know, I will be here for each of them. (I'm not hearing the exact words, but I am picking up that each one of us will know when the time comes, what we can do. There is nothing to force ourselves or push ourselves into something we will know. Move forward gently, move in love, let your heart open up. You are doing well, my children. You are very precious to me. Each one of you is blossoming like a flower if you could only see how your petals are unfolding. Each has his own beauty. Each has his own uniqueness. You are each doing much to help me. And, in the days ahead, as the strength of your commitment grows, love from your heart pours forward, you will know the ways in which you can be of service.
Lise::May I ask a question? Is this Michael?
Lise::May I ask a question? Is this Michael?
My Child, love can never be weak.
My Child, love can never be weak.
Michael: (Allene)
Michael: (Allene) My Child, there are many times when what you wish to say will be misunderstood. do not be concerned... you will learn discernment. As you reach out to share your love with others.
My Child, there are many times when what you wish to say will be misunderstood. do not be concerned... you will learn discernment. As you reach out to share your love with others.
Lise::Thank you. I'll have to ask the group later about this...
Lise::Thank you. I'll have to ask the group later about this...
Michael: (Patije)
Michael: (Patije) Go forth each day, mindful that I am at your shoulder. Do everything with that in mind. That you are doing it to please me. That you are doing it for your higher good, that you are doing it for the Father's business, that you are doing it to sow the seeds upon this planet of what light and life is. Do not concern yourself with other's criticism or other's viewpoints. They may be coming from out-of-balance emotions, from a place of distrust, from a background of dysfunctional reactions. Know that if you hold within your heart your true values, and you are moving in love energy and you are conscious of my being with you, then you will know that you need not be concerned, and while I tell you this, I tell you, also, that I am not here to judge you. I am here to give you confidence. I am here to give you comfort, as you go about your daily experience. Will that help you to understand?
Go forth each day, mindful that I am at your shoulder. Do everything with that in mind. That you are doing it to please me. That you are doing it for your higher good, that you are doing it for the Father's business, that you are doing it to sow the seeds upon this planet of what light and life is. Do not concern yourself with other's criticism or other's viewpoints. They may be coming from out-of-balance emotions, from a place of distrust, from a background of dysfunctional reactions. Know that if you hold within your heart your true values, and you are moving in love energy and you are conscious of my being with you, then you will know that you need not be concerned, and while I tell you this, I tell you, also, that I am not here to judge you. I am here to give you confidence. I am here to give you comfort, as you go about your daily experience. Will that help you to understand?
Lise::Yes, thank you. Thank you.
Lise::Yes, thank you. Thank you.
Patije:
Patije: What about me, Michael. (laughter) Help me send my love and my gratitude to the group in Hawaii who have been so helpful! Their enthusiasm and their questions and their computer help and all the things that they are generously sending to me, I am just so open and receptive for. I just really thank you for all of that! And, I ask you too for healing. (long silence)
Michael: (Allene) We are so pleased to witness your joy. You know, Patije, you can always bring your burdens to me.
Michael: (Allene)
We are so pleased to witness your joy. You know, Patije, you can always bring your burdens to me.
Patije:I have done so, I just wanted affirmation. Silly, little faithless me!
Patije:I have done so, I just wanted affirmation. Silly, little faithless me!
Lise:I don't know why I've always thought they were so busy. Aren't they very busy?
Lise:I don't know why I've always thought they were so busy. Aren't they very busy?
Patije:
Patije: I do believe and I do accept healing and I know that I was reaffirmed this morning that it would come. And, I thank you for it. I thank you for it in behalf of Ann and Wanda and Julie and Lise and Drue and even Allene and myself. We all need your health, your energy, and your enthusiasm. And, we will be faithful. We do have the faith. We do believe. We do accept.
I do believe and I do accept healing and I know that I was reaffirmed this morning that it would come. And, I thank you for it. I thank you for it in behalf of Ann and Wanda and Julie and Lise and Drue and even Allene and myself. We all need your health, your energy, and your enthusiasm. And, we will be faithful. We do have the faith. We do believe. We do accept.
Michael: (Allene)
Michael: (Allene)
Patije:Do you have a lesson or a message for us, Michael, to enable us to be better servants? (long silence)
Patije:Do you have a lesson or a message for us, Michael, to enable us to be better servants? (long silence)
Michael:
Michael: What would, perhaps, be most helpful to all of you at this present time, is to remember that I am with you, I am with each one of you. You may feel free to bring your burdens to me. You all have teachers, that also may assist you. It would be best to concentrate on staying in balance right now. You have many of us to help you. The energies of the Creative Mother Spirit, as you call her. Her energies are also present. It would be best for all of you now to learn to use the help of all of us, the tools that have been provided for you, to stay in balance. It is truly difficult to be loving. the level of loving that you wish to achieve when you are out-of- balance. As you go about your daily activities, keep this in mind. See how you do. Do not judge yourselves when you catch yourself off balance. Use the tools. Call on us. Get yourself back in balance. This must be achieved before your love energies will be able to operate freely. This I think will keep you all rather busy. Remember that we are with you always. Not just, when you meet in a group, not just at the end of the day. We are ever present. None of you are ever alone. (pause) It is through your free will that you are able to choose to move out of any imbalances, you are able to choose to seek us, you are able to use what you have. This is your free will. This is your choice. The choice is always yours. These choices present themselves almost constantly to you, throughout your day.
Allene: This you'll like, Lise. (laughter) As you move up the spiral, your Thought Adjuster will play a more active role. Lise: you saw this in your meeting this week. More and more as you step aside with your attention...
Allene:
This you'll like, Lise. (laughter) As you move up the spiral, your Thought Adjuster will play a more active role. Lise: you saw this in your meeting this week. More and more as you step aside with your attention...
Lise::I don't know....oh! I think I understand what you are . ..I have a question for Michael. I realize that I am learning, but I try, I feel like . ..in my mind, no problem; I feel working towards love energy not really for work.....(static unclear) but as far as transmitting, I don't hear. In order to participate, will that come later, or am I not still enough? I don't hear.
Lise::I don't know....oh! I think I understand what you are . ..I have a question for Michael. I realize that I am learning, but I try, I feel like . ..in my mind, no problem; I feel working towards love energy not really for work.....(static unclear) but as far as transmitting, I don't hear. In order to participate, will that come later, or am I not still enough? I don't hear.
Lise:Ok.
Lise:Ok.
Michael: (Allene)
Michael: (Allene) When your teacher, Aflana, says "You know that you know." in the stillness, you will come to understand more of what Aflana is saying to you. You all find this somewhat amusing when you hear Aflana say "YOU know that you know" There is much more depth to this statement that you all have realized.
When your teacher, Aflana, says "You know that you know." in the stillness, you will come to understand more of what Aflana is saying to you. You all find this somewhat amusing when you hear Aflana say "YOU know that you know" There is much more depth to this statement that you all have realized.
Lise::Well, I think we do realize there is depth, Look at me contradicting her! But, it is a way of recognizing Aflana when we hear that statement.
Lise::Well, I think we do realize there is depth, Look at me contradicting her! But, it is a way of recognizing Aflana when we hear that statement.
Patije:You will feel a lightness, a happiness, almost a flirty lilting voice. Aflana seldom talks like we do. She always ends her sentences sort of up in the air - like leading your thoughts to continue beyond her words.
Patije:You will feel a lightness, a happiness, almost a flirty lilting voice. Aflana seldom talks like we do. She always ends her sentences sort of up in the air - like leading your thoughts to continue beyond her words.
Allene:
Allene: I picked up something else from Michael, too: "How important it is to learn to stay in balance, for not only will we (you?) be better able to be of service but we (you?) will learn much more about the stillness. It is difficult to reach the level of stillness when one is out-of-balance." This really must be the lesson for tonight. (long, long, silence)
Patije: I would like to thank Michael for something rather personal, but not personal either. My daughter who is involved in the Pentecostal church somewhere in the suburbs of Reading, PA, has begun her journaling and writing her letters from God and I am delighted that she shared this with me. It makes my Mother's heart feel very warm. But even more than that is the excitement that this is branching out - outside of the Urantia communities into fundamental communities. She of course, is being directed by the Bible, where we are directed to go to the Urantia Book for our text. But it is so delightful to know that this is working in harmony with other methods. And, I thank you very much, Michael!
Patije:
I would like to thank Michael for something rather personal, but not personal either. My daughter who is involved in the Pentecostal church somewhere in the suburbs of Reading, PA, has begun her journaling and writing her letters from God and I am delighted that she shared this with me. It makes my Mother's heart feel very warm. But even more than that is the excitement that this is branching out - outside of the Urantia communities into fundamental communities. She of course, is being directed by the Bible, where we are directed to go to the Urantia Book for our text. But it is so delightful to know that this is working in harmony with other methods. And, I thank you very much, Michael!
Lise:I commented to Allene about a similar situation about knowing people who are doing wonderful, wonderful things, who are probably never be involved in Urantia. It is on all different levels. It is love...I am hearing it all the time. More and more people doing things for their fellow man. It is just incredible some of the things I've heard! Particularly in my employment.
Lise:I commented to Allene about a similar situation about knowing people who are doing wonderful, wonderful things, who are probably never be involved in Urantia. It is on all different levels. It is love...I am hearing it all the time. More and more people doing things for their fellow man. It is just incredible some of the things I've heard! Particularly in my employment.
Allene:Michael, I would really like to thank you for our lovely lovely Doctor Sommers . He is so delightful with his letters to God and the letter I got from him today, surely he is doing much. I hope that you will do much to see that his light does not go out here on Urantia for some time. He is contributing so much.
Allene:Michael, I would really like to thank you for our lovely lovely Doctor Sommers . He is so delightful with his letters to God and the letter I got from him today, surely he is doing much. I hope that you will do much to see that his light does not go out here on Urantia for some time. He is contributing so much.
Michael: (Patije)
Michael: (Patije) He is a very special child and I love him dearly. We too, his light remains on Urantia. It is his choice.
He is a very special child and I love him dearly. We too, his light remains on Urantia. It is his choice.
Julie:I keep getting a picture for a long time and it is getting stronger and stronger, of a 4 leaf clover.
Julie:I keep getting a picture for a long time and it is getting stronger and stronger, of a 4 leaf clover.
Allene:this is Allene. I am willing. I was asking for guidance as to not to do the work, but guidance along the way in reading and what to include and how it would...how this would best be of service in the...as the process begins I am willing to do the work.
Allene:this is Allene. I am willing. I was asking for guidance as to not to do the work, but guidance along the way in reading and what to include and how it would...how this would best be of service in the...as the process begins I am willing to do the work.
Michael:
Michael: As you receive these and read the transcripts which will be sent to you, or will come into your hands, you will intuitively know and be directed by myself or one of your teachers. There is no question that you will be guided. Do not take criticism from the mortals to the point that you give up and quit. We are guiding you and the words that are selected for the News Network will be carefully monitored when read by others and we will be able to help many by your service. Does that help?
As you receive these and read the transcripts which will be sent to you, or will come into your hands, you will intuitively know and be directed by myself or one of your teachers. There is no question that you will be guided. Do not take criticism from the mortals to the point that you give up and quit. We are guiding you and the words that are selected for the News Network will be carefully monitored when read by others and we will be able to help many by your service. Does that help?
Allene:thank you, Michael. That helps immensely. I just wanted to be clear in my mind that this would be something that would be of service and that the information . ..I would have some guidance to be of service.
Allene:thank you, Michael. That helps immensely. I just wanted to be clear in my mind that this would be something that would be of service and that the information . ..I would have some guidance to be of service.
Michael:
Michael: There will be many attempts to network and do not give up because this is very important. When the physical appearances are manifested upon the planet there will be great chaos and it is important that many networking letters - newsletters- many medias be in place and prepared...
There will be many attempts to network and do not give up because this is very important. When the physical appearances are manifested upon the planet there will be great chaos and it is important that many networking letters - newsletters- many medias be in place and prepared...
Lise:When...
Lise:When...
Allene:I thank you, Michael.
Allene:I thank you, Michael.
Allene:This was my...this was maybe part of the reason it was impressed upon me. That as these manifestations take place I felt there needed to be a network in place. Thank you.
Allene:This was my...this was maybe part of the reason it was impressed upon me. That as these manifestations take place I felt there needed to be a network in place. Thank you.
Michael:
Michael: After the manifestations take place and the excitement and out-of-balance emotions die down and the reactions of enthusiasm and then depression set in by those who do not have expectations at all, when the Melchizedeks begin to work, we will need newsletters, newspapers, and various media in place at that time also. This is a continuing thing. It is not to be done and then dropped.
After the manifestations take place and the excitement and out-of-balance emotions die down and the reactions of enthusiasm and then depression set in by those who do not have expectations at all, when the Melchizedeks begin to work, we will need newsletters, newspapers, and various media in place at that time also. This is a continuing thing. It is not to be done and then dropped.
Allene:Thank you. I will carry forward.
Allene:Thank you. I will carry forward.
Michael:
Michael: I wish to remind you that there will be forthcoming more lambs to your tutorage and you will find in those numbers which come to you, there will be enthusiastic helpers. You will not always toil alone in the endeavors that you and Patije have undertaken. Know this and be comforted. Though the work will be hard, it will not be difficult if you two work as a team.
I wish to remind you that there will be forthcoming more lambs to your tutorage and you will find in those numbers which come to you, there will be enthusiastic helpers. You will not always toil alone in the endeavors that you and Patije have undertaken. Know this and be comforted. Though the work will be hard, it will not be difficult if you two work as a team.
Allene:This is Allene. Michael, if this work helps you in your service to the Father, I am willing. It is with a happy heart that I perceive it. Thank you, very much.
Allene:This is Allene. Michael, if this work helps you in your service to the Father, I am willing. It is with a happy heart that I perceive it. Thank you, very much.
Lise:Ahha......
Lise:Ahha......
Creative Mother Spirit: (Allene)
Creative Mother Spirit: (Allene) My Dear Children, this is your Creative Mother Spirit, I wanted you to know of my presence this evening. I, too, am here with Michael. I offer the assistance of my ministry to help in all that you are doing. You will find me in many places. Much that you observe in the days ahead will have my fingerprints on it.
My Dear Children, this is your Creative Mother Spirit, I wanted you to know of my presence this evening. I, too, am here with Michael. I offer the assistance of my ministry to help in all that you are doing. You will find me in many places. Much that you observe in the days ahead will have my fingerprints on it.
Allene:This is putting it down in real human terms, isn't it! (laughter)
Allene:This is putting it down in real human terms, isn't it! (laughter)
Lise:Our change?
Lise:Our change?
Creative Mother Spirit:
Creative Mother Spirit: Your perceptions of time, of space of vision, of senses, . ..
Your perceptions of time, of space of vision, of senses, . ..
Now I am just going to translate for you, but what she is trying to say is what we will notice most obviously is the change of perception. What she means is visual changes, time changes, physical reactions to the adjustments... This is a movement, an upstepping that is going on for those that are involved and aware and able to partake of this. This is how you will see my actions. You will each become aware of them in your own way. As you share, you will help each other to become aware of what is taking place around you. This happens on a lower pace, on a slow pace, and sometimes the changes are so imperceptible that you do not realize, but they are taking place.
Allene: Now I am just going to translate for you, but what she is trying to say is what we will notice most obviously is the change of perception. What she means is visual changes, time changes, physical reactions to the adjustments... This is a movement, an upstepping that is going on for those that are involved and aware and able to partake of this. This is how you will see my actions. You will each become aware of them in your own way. As you share, you will help each other to become aware of what is taking place around you. This happens on a lower pace, on a slow pace, and sometimes the changes are so imperceptible that you do not realize, but they are taking place.
Lise:Mother spirit, do you mean take your place within the world? or within ourselves? or amongst . ..(tape unclear)
Lise:Mother spirit, do you mean take your place within the world? or within ourselves? or amongst . ..(tape unclear)
Lise:I have a question for her: A spiritual person that I would consider a person involved spiritually in her religion, a very good person, has told me that Mary, the mother of jesus has been speaking to large crowds in certain places int he United States and giving specific messages. I wanted to ask the Mother Spirit can she comment on this? Is this true?
Lise:I have a question for her: A spiritual person that I would consider a person involved spiritually in her religion, a very good person, has told me that Mary, the mother of jesus has been speaking to large crowds in certain places int he United States and giving specific messages. I wanted to ask the Mother Spirit can she comment on this? Is this true?
Creative Mother Spirit:
Creative Mother Spirit: This is true. This is me acting through one who calls herself Mary.
This is true. This is me acting through one who calls herself Mary.
Lise:The person said the messages are to her, almost like shape up or ship out. At least these are her interpretations. They sound these warnings which doesn't seem to follow suit with what I am learning in Urantia.
Lise:The person said the messages are to her, almost like shape up or ship out. At least these are her interpretations. They sound these warnings which doesn't seem to follow suit with what I am learning in Urantia.
Creative Mother Spirit:
Creative Mother Spirit: You must realize that every message that comes through a material mind is colored somewhat by the perceptions of that human. If I say: "there are changes coming" if one is filled with fear they will be frightened. And, if I say that they are to be alert and be aware to what will be coming, if they have been steeped in darkness, superstition and fear, they will immediately sound the alarm. They will panic. This is one of the things we work with from this side - is people's perceptions and we find that when we inspire them, what we think is inspiration sometimes turns them into fanatics and we must be careful and not go too strongly with our messages because they are misinterpreted.
You must realize that every message that comes through a material mind is colored somewhat by the perceptions of that human. If I say: "there are changes coming" if one is filled with fear they will be frightened. And, if I say that they are to be alert and be aware to what will be coming, if they have been steeped in darkness, superstition and fear, they will immediately sound the alarm. They will panic. This is one of the things we work with from this side - is people's perceptions and we find that when we inspire them, what we think is inspiration sometimes turns them into fanatics and we must be careful and not go too strongly with our messages because they are misinterpreted.
Lise::Yes. This woman becomes . ..not to be judgmental...but very fanatic from what I could see.
Lise::Yes. This woman becomes . ..not to be judgmental...but very fanatic from what I could see.
Creative Mother Spirit: (Patije)
Creative Mother Spirit: (Patije) It is her fear which speaks to you. If she can retain balance of her emotions, and know that God is love, God is good and the Father would bring no harm to anyone. All things work together for good. If there is a warning about something which is going to occur, His thought is not changed. Change thought and you change the circumstances...
It is her fear which speaks to you. If she can retain balance of her emotions, and know that God is love, God is good and the Father would bring no harm to anyone. All things work together for good. If there is a warning about something which is going to occur, His thought is not changed. Change thought and you change the circumstances...
Allene:This is really good! (laughter)
Allene:This is really good! (laughter)
Lise:Thank you very much! That helps tremendously. Because I will probably see this person again. Thank you.
Lise:Thank you very much! That helps tremendously. Because I will probably see this person again. Thank you.
Creative Mother Spirit:
Creative Mother Spirit: Do not try to change any.. Only minister to them where they are in their language in their religion. Help them step up into the higher realms of their mode of thinking. Help them learn to think for themselves and go within to the still quiet voice within their minds. They cannot be led astray this way. Only if they follow through out-of-balance emotions others with out-of=balance emotions. Love casts out all fear. Fear is in . ..thought..therefore fear cannot reign in the hearts of men forever.
Do not try to change any.. Only minister to them where they are in their language in their religion. Help them step up into the higher realms of their mode of thinking. Help them learn to think for themselves and go within to the still quiet voice within their minds. They cannot be led astray this way. Only if they follow through out-of-balance emotions others with out-of=balance emotions. Love casts out all fear. Fear is in . ..thought..therefore fear cannot reign in the hearts of men forever.
Lise::Isn't that great? Thank you so much?
Lise::Isn't that great? Thank you so much?
Lise::Oh, sitting on my shoulder! Sitting on my shoulder!?!?!? I wanted to ask the group, they said they don't mind group discussion..during all of this, and ah, I want to know sometimes I've felt my paternal grandmother has been close to me recently in the past three years or so. I've studies Urantia and known people go to a different world, and I wondered "how can that be so" you know, what's the deal? And the other question was if we have children growing up on the other side, I was told by a elderly gentleman that a young boy is close to me. He is about 16 years of age. Can anybody comment on those things - I mean does it sound like Hullabaloo to you.
Lise::Oh, sitting on my shoulder! Sitting on my shoulder!?!?!? I wanted to ask the group, they said they don't mind group discussion..during all of this, and ah, I want to know sometimes I've felt my paternal grandmother has been close to me recently in the past three years or so. I've studies Urantia and known people go to a different world, and I wondered "how can that be so" you know, what's the deal? And the other question was if we have children growing up on the other side, I was told by a elderly gentleman that a young boy is close to me. He is about 16 years of age. Can anybody comment on those things - I mean does it sound like Hullabaloo to you.
Patije:
Patije: This is Patije talking. I am aware that there are many circuits now that are open and it is possible that although they are not with you personally it is possible that you are tuning into a circuit which they may be part of, perhaps the son-circuit, or the personality-circuit, or the spirit circuit, coming to you to give you comfort or something. I'm sure this is unclear because I'm not clear on it. The Urantia book tells us there is no communication - or at least was not prior to the final adjudication of Caligastia - of those who have passed out of Time and Space from their mortal life with those who remain in their mortal life experience. Perhaps the adjudication changed this. I don't know.
This is Patije talking. I am aware that there are many circuits now that are open and it is possible that although they are not with you personally it is possible that you are tuning into a circuit which they may be part of, perhaps the son-circuit, or the personality-circuit, or the spirit circuit, coming to you to give you comfort or something. I'm sure this is unclear because I'm not clear on it. The Urantia book tells us there is no communication - or at least was not prior to the final adjudication of Caligastia - of those who have passed out of Time and Space from their mortal life with those who remain in their mortal life experience. Perhaps the adjudication changed this. I don't know.
I don't have this clearly in my mind because I am so - discussing this with my teachers about my brother who died about 1 and 1/2 years ago, when you were saying that, and how things have changed and the circuits are opened, I had the same idea. I "saw" my brother Ken, I saw so clearly him in the car when I was working with these circuits. He said:"Allene, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. Keep going." I'm like "Why don't you tell me, Ken" and he said "I can't" Well, when you said that just a flash - I can't explain it, I don't know, just a flash, it went through my mind that there are circuits opened for those on certain circuitry - I don't now how to explain it - but not all those who are deceased are available. Only certain ones are available in certain circuits for certain service on some level. I don't get it, but the circuits are opened for some. It just flashed through my mind, just as you were talking. I still can't explain it. And, I still don't totally understand it. I'm just sharing with you a glimmer went through my mind.
Allene: I don't have this clearly in my mind because I am so - discussing this with my teachers about my brother who died about 1 and 1/2 years ago, when you were saying that, and how things have changed and the circuits are opened, I had the same idea. I "saw" my brother Ken, I saw so clearly him in the car when I was working with these circuits. He said:"Allene, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. Keep going." I'm like "Why don't you tell me, Ken" and he said "I can't" Well, when you said that just a flash - I can't explain it, I don't know, just a flash, it went through my mind that there are circuits opened for those on certain circuitry - I don't now how to explain it - but not all those who are deceased are available. Only certain ones are available in certain circuits for certain service on some level. I don't get it, but the circuits are opened for some. It just flashed through my mind, just as you were talking. I still can't explain it. And, I still don't totally understand it. I'm just sharing with you a glimmer went through my mind.
Lise:When did this happen with your brother? two years ago?
Lise:When did this happen with your brother? two years ago?
Lise:Ok.
Lise:Ok.
Allene:
Allene: Interesting, I was talking to Mary today and she said just in passing "I think you got some of his energy." I said: "I know I did." I'm not the same. I understand from the Urantia book how that part works, but the other part I think is difficult. I hate to discuss this so much because so much of what is going on Urantia is people who want to contact their deceased friends or family and I don't want to...
Interesting, I was talking to Mary today and she said just in passing "I think you got some of his energy." I said: "I know I did." I'm not the same. I understand from the Urantia book how that part works, but the other part I think is difficult. I hate to discuss this so much because so much of what is going on Urantia is people who want to contact their deceased friends or family and I don't want to...
Lise:I don't want to do that.
Lise:I don't want to do that.
Patije:He continued: I heard "... the Light of God surrounds you, the Love of God upholds and enfold you" and he went on and on and on. He asked "could that have been Aflana clear over here?"
Patije:He continued: I heard "... the Light of God surrounds you, the Love of God upholds and enfold you" and he went on and on and on. He asked "could that have been Aflana clear over here?"
Allene:
Allene: It is so amazing! This group - these two groups - I don't know what the other ones are doing so I can't speak for them, but these two groups on Thursday and Monday, it is interesting: One we have had Michael continually, we've had the Creative Mother Spirit, we've had more entities than any other group. Most of them have had one or two teachers and maybe visitors drop by from time to time. The other interesting thing is Aflana came originally, you know, as an emergency teacher. Aflana is the one that is the technical director and shows up in all these other groups and still maintains her teachership here - because it really is Aflana and LorEL. I put in that newsletter that VanEssa is a midwayer because she is not really a teacher. So we have had, Aflana stay with us, we have had VanEL with his technical stuff and working with us I know. From the beginning, while I'm not comparing things, when you look at the blessings this group has had, for such a small group, it is really astounding! So when you said to me the other day, when are they going to get on with more information, I'm like astounded to be a part of this.
It is so amazing! This group - these two groups - I don't know what the other ones are doing so I can't speak for them, but these two groups on Thursday and Monday, it is interesting: One we have had Michael continually, we've had the Creative Mother Spirit, we've had more entities than any other group. Most of them have had one or two teachers and maybe visitors drop by from time to time. The other interesting thing is Aflana came originally, you know, as an emergency teacher. Aflana is the one that is the technical director and shows up in all these other groups and still maintains her teachership here - because it really is Aflana and LorEL. I put in that newsletter that VanEssa is a midwayer because she is not really a teacher. So we have had, Aflana stay with us, we have had VanEL with his technical stuff and working with us I know. From the beginning, while I'm not comparing things, when you look at the blessings this group has had, for such a small group, it is really astounding! So when you said to me the other day, when are they going to get on with more information, I'm like astounded to be a part of this.
Lise:Wow!
Lise:Wow!
Lise:Did you say we are a teaching group? What does that mean?
Lise:Did you say we are a teaching group? What does that mean?
Patije:
Patije: We were told that Sarasota was a teaching headquarters...later Allene and I were told separately in our writings on the same night, that we were to begin to teach new transmitters in any way we could. I was told many would be brought to us to learn. Later, I was told that each of us have something to teach others whether they are new readers, new transmitters, new teachers of the UB, need to learn how to accept healing, or whatever...
We were told that Sarasota was a teaching headquarters...later Allene and I were told separately in our writings on the same night, that we were to begin to teach new transmitters in any way we could. I was told many would be brought to us to learn. Later, I was told that each of us have something to teach others whether they are new readers, new transmitters, new teachers of the UB, need to learn how to accept healing, or whatever...
Allene: Indiana may be the healing headquarters. There was another group that was told that they were going to be the teaching center. there is going to be teaching centers in many levels.
Allene: Indiana may be the healing headquarters. There was another group that was told that they were going to be the teaching center. there is going to be teaching centers in many levels.
Patije:
Patije: We are going to be many teaching centers. We may just be a teaching center. But we are definitely a teaching center. I think there was some sort of iffy business when the group split. I think they thought we had defaulted but I think we are still carrying the ball ok, so they are not going to desert what they...
We are going to be many teaching centers. We may just be a teaching center. But we are definitely a teaching center. I think there was some sort of iffy business when the group split. I think they thought we had defaulted but I think we are still carrying the ball ok, so they are not going to desert what they...
Allene:If they are going to have a teaching center, why would Michael be coming here?
Allene:If they are going to have a teaching center, why would Michael be coming here?
Patije:I was told by Indianapolis and Hawaii, (I think) that Malaventa, one of the Melchizedeks are going to appear right here in Sarasota - work right here.
Patije:I was told by Indianapolis and Hawaii, (I think) that Malaventa, one of the Melchizedeks are going to appear right here in Sarasota - work right here.
Allene:
Allene: I'm not surprise. Remember, Melchizedek was that he told you or told me that one of the reasons that we don't often hear from him is because we are dong fine with our teachers. He checks in all the time, he knows what is happening. One of our questions, was: If this is going to be a teaching center, why don't we hear from Melchizedek? I did get something too interesting last night, from LorEl - about as sharp as she has every been said: "We hear you thinking about Patije's lovely messages. You, too, are different. You have different experiences. would it be any good if you two were both alike? And, by having totally different experiences you two will get a variety of things to look at if you get different things. WE know you are capable of doing this, but for what does this serve." (laughter) I felt like I had my wrists slapped last night! (laughter) And, I wasn't even thinking about it.
I'm not surprise. Remember, Melchizedek was that he told you or told me that one of the reasons that we don't often hear from him is because we are dong fine with our teachers. He checks in all the time, he knows what is happening. One of our questions, was: If this is going to be a teaching center, why don't we hear from Melchizedek? I did get something too interesting last night, from LorEl - about as sharp as she has every been said: "We hear you thinking about Patije's lovely messages. You, too, are different. You have different experiences. would it be any good if you two were both alike? And, by having totally different experiences you two will get a variety of things to look at if you get different things. WE know you are capable of doing this, but for what does this serve." (laughter) I felt like I had my wrists slapped last night! (laughter) And, I wasn't even thinking about it.
I've been thinking about how I am almost jealous of the Indianapolis group and I, too, was kind of chastened about that. "We've got things for you to do." I guess each group is totally different and will have a different purpose for the Corps, but all of us together are being groomed for our particular purpose.
Patije: I've been thinking about how I am almost jealous of the Indianapolis group and I, too, was kind of chastened about that. "We've got things for you to do." I guess each group is totally different and will have a different purpose for the Corps, but all of us together are being groomed for our particular purpose.
Lise:Because of healing?
Lise:Because of healing?
Patije:
Patije: No, because Welmek has got this great big group and they all read the Urantia book and are asking questions, and participating - and our group split up over that. They have children participating. And they seem to have several different meetings each week... (everybody talking at once)
No, because Welmek has got this great big group and they all read the Urantia book and are asking questions, and participating - and our group split up over that. They have children participating. And they seem to have several different meetings each week... (everybody talking at once)
Lise:Do I understand that I will be a teacher?
Lise:Do I understand that I will be a teacher?
Allene:
Allene: It doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and spread it in different ways.
It doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and spread it in different ways.
Lise:I thought that was what we were doing, but then...
Lise:I thought that was what we were doing, but then...
Allene:
Allene: We are being prepped to be teachers. That's the connection, but it doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and share in a different way.
We are being prepped to be teachers. That's the connection, but it doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and share in a different way.
Patije:Whatever our contribution to the community or team will be is what we teach to the others that join us, or come to us for help.
Patije:Whatever our contribution to the community or team will be is what we teach to the others that join us, or come to us for help.
===Lesson 7===
JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
SUNDAY, JANUARY 3, 1993 (12:30 PM)
SUNDAY, JANUARY 3, 1993 (12:30 PM)
====Opening====
Dearest Father and teachers,
Dearest Father and teachers,
Yesterday, all day, I felt as though someone pulled the plug on me and broke my circuits. I had a feeling Aflana was working on me. I am willing and open to do my Father's work. Are there any messages? Julie
Yesterday, all day, I felt as though someone pulled the plug on me and broke my circuits. I had a feeling Aflana was working on me. I am willing and open to do my Father's work. Are there any messages? Julie
====Lesson====
Dear One,
Dear One, You are my child. I am well pleased with your works and thinking such easy lessons for everyone, but so difficult to comprehend and carry out!! I am pleased that you are hearing these words. I love you and I am always here for you. just live up to your potential and I will be pleased. The healing you are learning is for self-healing. Your mission is to teach. There are all kinds of teachings.
You are my child. I am well pleased with your works and thinking such easy lessons for everyone, but so difficult to comprehend and carry out!! I am pleased that you are hearing these words. I love you and I am always here for you. just live up to your potential and I will be pleased. The healing you are learning is for self-healing. Your mission is to teach. There are all kinds of teachings.
Thought Adjuster
Thought Adjuster
Julie:Thank you, T.A. I am trying to be a good student.
Julie:Thank you, T.A. I am trying to be a good student.
This is JoEl,
This is JoEl, We are sending you pictures and still adjusting your circuits. Continue to think on those pictures. We love you and Michael is well pleased with you. Your teachers.
We are sending you pictures and still adjusting your circuits. Continue to think on those pictures. We love you and Michael is well pleased with you. Your teachers.
Julie:Thank you, Teachers, I guess that is why I had to go to bed very early last night. I am thinking on all these things. I send my love energy to you all.
Julie:Thank you, Teachers, I guess that is why I had to go to bed very early last night. I am thinking on all these things. I send my love energy to you all.
===Lesson 8===
JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
JULIE'S IMPRESSIONS
JANUARY 4, 1993 (12:45)
JANUARY 4, 1993 (12:45)
====Opening====
Dearest Father and teachers,
Dearest Father and teachers,
Julia
Julia
====Lesson====
My Child,
My Child, You are loved, and I am always here for you. Call out to me for comfort. I know that is in your heart, and I am well pleased. I love you and love one another as I love you. That is the greatest lesson.
You are loved, and I am always here for you. Call out to me for comfort. I know that is in your heart, and I am well pleased. I love you and love one another as I love you. That is the greatest lesson.
Your T. A.
Your T. A.
This is JoEl. We want you to enjoy this day, and we will get back to later. Good bye.
This is JoEl. We want you to enjoy this day, and we will get back to later. Good bye.
===Lesson 9===
TUESDAY, JANUARY 5, 1993 (12:30 PM)
TUESDAY, JANUARY 5, 1993 (12:30 PM)
====Opening====
Dearest Father and Teachers
Dearest Father and Teachers
Julie
Julie
====Lesson====
This is JoEL:
This is JoEL: I come in love, light and life. The energies are speeding up. That is why you are tired. Listen to your inner voice and pictures - they will be your lessons for today. We love you and we are very happy you are to willing. We will do home experimental adjustments, so rest.
I come in love, light and life. The energies are speeding up. That is why you are tired. Listen to your inner voice and pictures - they will be your lessons for today. We love you and we are very happy you are to willing. We will do home experimental adjustments, so rest.
Be happy and love energy to you from your teachers.
Be happy and love energy to you from your teachers.
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===Lesson 10===
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
MONDAY, JANUARY 4, 1993 (NOON)
MONDAY, JANUARY 4, 1993 (NOON)
====Opening====
Dear Father,
Dear Father,
These MS symptoms are not mine and I will not accept them. You know in my heart I wish to be about the Your business and have not time for this! I accept the numbness as adjustment to my nervous system and nothing else. Thank you for hearing my prayer of affirmation! Healing is possible and I recognize and accept it for me! Thank you, Father! Amen!
These MS symptoms are not mine and I will not accept them. You know in my heart I wish to be about the Your business and have not time for this! I accept the numbness as adjustment to my nervous system and nothing else. Thank you for hearing my prayer of affirmation! Healing is possible and I recognize and accept it for me! Thank you, Father! Amen!
====Lesson====
Aflana:The Light of God surrounds you, the love of God enfold you and the Power of God protects you! There is only one Source of all in the Universe and in your life. It is good. Wherever you are, your Source is, your destiny is and all works for good! And so it is!
Michael: Be of good cheer. All is well. You of much faith must not entertain any doubts of your perfection - go forth and be what you are - a love filled mortal of great faith! I have spoken and it is so!
Michael:
Be of good cheer. All is well. You of much faith must not entertain any doubts of your perfection - go forth and be what you are - a love filled mortal of great faith! I have spoken and it is so!
Patije: Thank you, Christ Michael! I accept your words as Truth and beauty! Goodness shall follow me and nothing can separate me from the love of god! Amen.
VanEssa: Your courage inspires many. Do not falter now.
Oonavea:My love child - you must let go of all disharmony in your thoughts. Weed your mind garden quickly and be done with anything other than fruits of the Spirit. Alleluia!
LorEL: I am with you and assure you that much healing energy is surrounding you and ministry to you physicality. Rise up and walk with security of Truth.
This too shall pass. go forth in trust and service. All will be made whole under Light! Love casts out fear. There is no place for fear. Transmute all doubt to LOVE. All will be well.
VanEL: This too shall pass. go forth in trust and service. All will be made whole under Light! Love casts out fear. There is no place for fear. Transmute all doubt to LOVE. All will be well.
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===Lesson 11===
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
PATIJE IMPRESSIONS
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==Note==
END PART I Sarasota Group, January 1993
Sarasota Transcripts of Personal Sessions and of the Celestial Discovery Group, Part I, January, 1993
Lessons (1) January 01,thru (44) January 31, 1993 - 1 of 5
[Editor’s Note: The Celestial Discovery Group superseded the Celestial Impressions Group of 1992 & The Englewood Florida Group broke out of the Celestial Impressions Group 1992]
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