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===The noumenon as a limiting concept===

===The noumenon as a limiting concept===

Even if noumena are unknowable, they are still needed as a ''limiting concept'' <ref>[http://staffweb.ncnu.edu.tw/wenzel/Tr%20Realism,%20Emprical%20Realism,%20and%20Tr%20Idealism.DOC Allison, H. - ''Transcendental Realism, Empirical Realism, and Transcendental Idealism'' - MS Word]</ref>, Kant tells us. Without them, there would be only phenomena, and since we have complete knowledge of our phenomena, we would in a sense know everything. In his own words:

Even if noumena are unknowable, they are still needed as a ''limiting concept'' [http://staffweb.ncnu.edu.tw/wenzel/Tr%20Realism,%20Emprical%20Realism,%20and%20Tr%20Idealism.DOC], Kant tells us. Without them, there would be only phenomena, and since we have complete knowledge of our phenomena, we would in a sense know everything. In his own words:

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