Changes

Julie:4 of us?

Julie:4 of us?

Allene:that's what I thought of. Michael,this is Allene. I would like to ask you if this newsletter or network will be of service to all that is happening right now and if this is something you would like to see go forward, I would like to ask for all the guidance to see that this is done, according to your wishes.

Allene:that's what I thought of. Michael,this is Allene. I would like to ask you if this newsletter or network will be of service to all that is happening right now and if this is something you would like to see go forward, I would like to ask for all the [[guidance]] to see that this is done, according to your [[wishes]].

Michael: (Patije)

Michael: (Patije) It is a need. You have been [[impressed]] with the need. We are very delighted that you are willing to go forward with that. But know, My Child, the [[commitment]] you are making, the [[work]] you are bringing upon yourself. We can help and all of [[the teachers]] will be helping, but you will still ultimately have the [[material]] work to do. If you are willing, we are pleased.

It is a need. You have been impressed with the need. We are very delighted that you are willing to go forward with that. But know, My Child, the commitment you are making, the work you are bringing upon yourself. We can help and all of the teachers will be helping, but you will still ultimately have the material work to do. If you are willing, we are pleased.

Allene:this is Allene. I am willing. I was asking for [[guidance]] as to not to do the work, but guidance along the way in reading and what to include and how it would...how this would best be of service in the...as the process begins I am willing to do the work.

Allene:this is Allene. I am willing. I was asking for guidance as to not to do the work, but guidance along the way in reading and what to include and how it would...how this would best be of service in the...as the process begins I am willing to do the work.

Michael: As you [[receive]] these and [[read]] the [[transcripts]] which will be sent to you, or will come into your hands, you will [[intuitively]] know and be directed by myself or one of your [[teachers]]. There is no [[question]] that you will be guided. Do not take [[criticism]] from the [[mortals]] to the point that you give up and quit. We are guiding you and the [[words]] that are selected for the News Network will be carefully monitored when [[read]] by others and we will be able to help many by your [[service]]. Does that help?

Michael: As you receive these and read the transcripts which will be sent to you, or will come into your hands, you will intuitively know and be directed by myself or one of your teachers. There is no question that you will be guided. Do not take criticism from the mortals to the point that you give up and quit. We are guiding you and the words that are selected for the News Network will be carefully monitored when read by others and we will be able to help many by your service. Does that help?

Allene:thank you, Michael. That helps immensely. I just wanted to be [[clear]] in my [[mind]] that this would be something that would be of [[service]] and that the [[information]] . ..I would have some [[guidance]] to be of service.

Michael: There will be many attempts to network and do not give up because this is very important. When the [[physical]] [[appearances]] are [[manifested]] upon [[the planet]] there will be great [[chaos]] and it is important that many networking letters - newsletters- many [[medias]] be in place and [[prepared]]...

 

Michael: There will be many attempts to network and do not give up because this is very important. When the physical appearances are manifested upon the planet there will be great chaos and it is important that many networking letters - newsletters- many medias be in place and prepared...

Lise:When...  

Lise:When...  

Lise:I'm sorry.

Lise:I'm sorry.

Allene:This was my...this was maybe part of the reason it was impressed upon me. That as these manifestations take place I felt there needed to be a network in place. Thank you.

Allene:This was my...this was maybe part of the reason it was [[impressed]] upon me. That as these [[manifestations]] take place I felt there needed to be a network in place. Thank you.

Michael: After the manifestations take place and the excitement and out-of-balance emotions die down and the reactions of enthusiasm and then depression set in by those who do not have expectations at all, when the Melchizedeks begin to work, we will need newsletters, newspapers, and various media in place at that time also. This is a continuing thing. It is not to be done and then dropped.

Michael: After the [[manifestations]] take place and the [[excitement]] and out-of-balance [[emotions]] die down and the [[reactions]] of enthusiasm and then [[depression]] set in by those who do not have [[expectations]] at all, when the [[Melchizedeks]] begin to work, we will need newsletters, newspapers, and various [[media]] in place at that time also. This is a continuing thing. It is not to be done and then dropped.

Allene:Thank you. I will carry forward.

Allene:Thank you. I will carry forward.

Michael: I wish to remind you that there will be forthcoming more lambs to your tutorage and you will find in those numbers which come to you, there will be enthusiastic helpers. You will not always toil alone in the endeavors that you and Patije have undertaken. Know this and be comforted. Though the work will be hard, it will not be difficult if you two work as a team.

Michael: I wish to remind you that there will be forthcoming more lambs to your [[tutorage]] and you will find in those [[numbers]] which come to you, there will be [[enthusiastic]] helpers. You will not always toil [[alone]] in the endeavors that you and Patije have undertaken. Know this and be [[comforted]]. Though the work will be hard, it will not be [[difficult]] if you two work as a team.

Allene:This is Allene. Michael, if this work helps you in your service to the Father, I am willing. It is with a happy heart that I perceive it. Thank you, very much.

Allene:This is Allene. Michael, if this work helps you in your [[service]] to [[the Father]], I am willing. It is with a [[happy]] [[heart]] that I [[perceive]] it. Thank you, very much.

Patije:And, I, Patije am always willing to do all I can too. You know that there is no doubt. Thank you for the opportunity.

Patije:And, I, Patije am always willing to do all I can too. You know that there is no [[doubt]]. Thank you for the [[opportunity]].

Allene:Yes, thank you. Thank you also for the peace that you have brought to me this evening. I am very aware of it. (pause) I think LorEL wants to say something.

Allene:Yes, thank you. Thank you also for the [[peace]] that you have brought to me this evening. I am very [[aware]] of it. (pause) I think LorEL wants to say something.

Patije:I've been picking up for...

Patije:I've been picking up for...

Allene:I think I heard Michael say "I think LorEL wants to speak with you this evening."

Allene:I think I heard Michael say "I think LorEL wants to [[speak]] with you this evening."

Patije:We welcome you, LorEL.

Patije:We welcome you, LorEL.

Allene:I started hearing...I have the feeling that LorEL is waiting for Michael to finish and we hear Michael stepping aside for LorEL...

Allene:I started hearing...I have the [[feeling]] that LorEL is waiting for Michael to finish and we hear Michael stepping aside for LorEL...

Lise:Really!

Lise:Really!

Allene:That is what I am picking up.

Allene:That is what I am picking up.

Lise:Oh, my goodness! You can hear them still talking?

Lise:Oh, my [[goodness]]! You can hear them still talking?

Julie:I see a great big white light like somebody really wants to come in.

Julie:I see a great big white [[light]] like somebody really wants to come in.

Lise:Ahha......

Lise:Ahha......

Creative Mother Spirit: (Allene) My Dear Children, this is your Creative Mother Spirit, I wanted you to know of my presence this evening. I, too, am here with Michael. I offer the assistance of my ministry to help in all that you are doing. You will find me in many places. Much that you observe in the days ahead will have my fingerprints on it.

Creative [[Mother Spirit]]: (Allene) My Dear Children, this is your Creative Mother Spirit, I wanted you to know of my [[presence]] this evening. I, too, am here with [[Michael]]. I offer the [[assistance]] of my ministry to help in all that you are doing. You will find me in many places. Much that you [[observe]] in the days ahead will have my fingerprints on it.

Allene:This is putting it down in real human terms, isn't it! (laughter)

Allene:This is putting it down in real human terms, isn't it! ([[laughter]])

Creative Mother Spirit:

Creative Mother Spirit: You will know that I am behind the scenes in much of what will take place. (short [[silence]])

 

You will know that I am behind the scenes in much of what will take place. (short silence)

Patije:Can you tell us some of what will take place? (long silence)

Patije:Can you tell us some of what will take place? (long silence)

Creative Mother Spirit:

Creative Mother Spirit: Perhaps what will be the most obvious to you in the beginning will be the [[change]] in [[perceptions]].

 

Perhaps what will be the most obvious to you in the beginning will be the change in perceptions.

Lise:Our change?

Lise:Our change?

Creative Mother Spirit: Your perceptions of time, of space of vision, of senses, . ..

Creative Mother Spirit: Your perceptions of [[time]], of [[space]] of [[vision]], of [[senses]], . ..

Allene: Now I am just going to translate for you, but what she is trying to say is what we will notice most obviously is the change of perception. What she means is visual changes, time changes, physical reactions to the adjustments... This is a movement, an upstepping that is going on for those that are involved and aware and able to partake of this. This is how you will see my actions. You will each become aware of them in your own way. As you share, you will help each other to become aware of what is taking place around you. This happens on a lower pace, on a slow pace, and sometimes the changes are so imperceptible that you do not realize, but they are taking place.

Allene: Now I am just going to [[translate]] for you, but what she is trying to say is what we will notice most obviously is the change of [[perception]]. What she means is [[visual]] changes, [[time]] changes, physical [[reactions]] to the [[adjustments]]... This is a movement, an upstepping that is going on for those that are involved and [[aware]] and able to partake of this. This is how you will see my [[actions]]. You will each become aware of them in your own way. As you [[share]], you will help each other to become aware of what is taking place around you. This happens on a lower [[pace]], on a slow pace, and sometimes the [[changes]] are so imperceptible that you do not [[realize]], but they are taking place.

Lise:Mother spirit, do you mean take your place within the world? or within ourselves? or amongst . ..(tape unclear)

Lise:Mother spirit, do you mean take your place within the world? or within ourselves? or amongst . ..(tape unclear)

Allene:At the moment she is speaking within ourselves.

Allene:At the moment she is speaking within ourselves.

Lise:I have a question for her: A spiritual person that I would consider a person involved spiritually in her religion, a very good person, has told me that Mary, the mother of jesus has been speaking to large crowds in certain places int he United States and giving specific messages. I wanted to ask the Mother Spirit can she comment on this? Is this true?

Lise:I have a question for her: A [[spiritual]] [[person]] that I would consider a person involved spiritually in her [[religion]], a very [[good]] person, has told me that [[Mother Mary|Mary]], the mother of [[Jesus]] has been speaking to large crowds in certain places int he United States and giving specific [[messages]]. I wanted to ask the [[Mother Spirit]] can she comment on this? Is this true?

Creative Mother Spirit: This is true. This is me acting through one who calls herself Mary.

Creative Mother Spirit: This is true. This is me [[acting]] through one who calls herself [[Mother Mary|Mary]].

Lise:The person said the messages are to her, almost like shape up or ship out. At least these are her interpretations. They sound these warnings which doesn't seem to follow suit with what I am learning in Urantia.

Lise:The person said the [[messages]] are to her, almost like shape up or ship out. At least these are her [[interpretations]]. They sound these [[warnings]] which doesn't seem to follow suit with what I am [[learning]] in [[Urantia]].

Creative Mother Spirit: You must realize that every message that comes through a material mind is colored somewhat by the perceptions of that human. If I say: "there are changes coming" if one is filled with fear they will be frightened. And, if I say that they are to be alert and be aware to what will be coming, if they have been steeped in darkness, superstition and fear, they will immediately sound the alarm. They will panic. This is one of the things we work with from this side - is people's perceptions and we find that when we inspire them, what we think is inspiration sometimes turns them into fanatics and we must be careful and not go too strongly with our messages because they are misinterpreted.

Creative Mother Spirit: You must [[realize]] that every message that comes through a [[material mind]] is colored somewhat by the [[perceptions]] of that [[human]]. If I say: "there are changes coming" if one is filled with [[fear]] they will be frightened. And, if I say that they are to be alert and be [[aware]] to what will be coming, if they have been steeped in [[darkness]], [[superstition]] and [[fear]], they will immediately sound the [[alarm]]. They will [[panic]]. This is one of the things we work with from this side - is people's [[perceptions]] and we find that when we [[inspire]] them, what we think is inspiration sometimes turns them into [[fanatics]] and we must be careful and not go too [[strongly]] with our [[messages]] because they are misinterpreted.

Lise::Yes. This woman becomes . ..not to be judgmental...but very fanatic from what I could see.

Lise::Yes. This woman becomes . ..not to be [[judgmental]]...but very [[fanatic]] from what I could see.

Creative Mother Spirit: (Patije) It is her fear which speaks to you. If she can retain balance of her emotions, and know that God is love, God is good and the Father would bring no harm to anyone. All things work together for good. If there is a warning about something which is going to occur, His thought is not changed. Change thought and you change the circumstances...

Creative Mother Spirit: (Patije) It is her [[fear]] which speaks to you. If she can retain [[balance]] of her [[emotions]], and know that [[God]] is [[love]], God is [[good]] and [[the Father]] would bring no harm to anyone. All things work together for [[good]]. If there is a warning about something which is going to occur, His thought is not changed. [[Change]] [[thought]] and you change the [[circumstances]]...

Allene:This is really good! (laughter)

Allene:This is really [[good]]! ([[laughter]])

Lise:Thank you very much! That helps tremendously. Because I will probably see this person again. Thank you.

Lise:Thank you very much! That helps tremendously. Because I will probably see this person again. Thank you.

Creative Mother Spirit: Do not try to change any.. Only minister to them where they are in their language in their religion. Help them step up into the higher realms of their mode of thinking. Help them learn to think for themselves and go within to the still quiet voice within their minds. They cannot be led astray this way. Only if they follow through out-of-balance emotions others with out-of=balance emotions. Love casts out all fear. Fear is in . ..thought..therefore fear cannot reign in the hearts of men forever.

Creative Mother Spirit: Do not try to change any.. Only minister to them where they are in their [[language]] in their [[religion]]. Help them step up into the higher realms of their mode of [[thinking]]. Help them learn to think for themselves and go within to the still [[quiet]] [[voice]] within their minds. They cannot be led astray this way. Only if they follow through out-of-balance [[emotions]] others with out-of-balance emotions. [[Love]] casts out all [[fear]]. Fear is in . ..thought..therefore fear cannot reign in the [[hearts]] of men forever.

Lise::Isn't that great? Thank you so much?

Lise::Isn't that great? Thank you so much?

Allene:umhmmm.

Allene:umhmmm.

Julie:When you were speaking I had this light- sort of a face in it.

Julie:When you were speaking I had this [[light]]-sort of a [[face]] in it.

Patije:pulsated. I saw that too.

Patije:pulsated. I saw that too.

Allene:Do you know what I saw when you started speaking? I thought maybe I had been watching something. Space ship - this huge circular you know you think of a space ship coming down...

Allene:Do you know what I saw when you started speaking? I [[thought]] maybe I had been watching something. Space ship - this huge circular you know you think of a space ship coming down...

Julie:this was it. this was it.

Julie:this was it. this was it.

Allene:And I am sitting here after Michael and realizing that this is coming and like visualizing this great ship coming right down from the ceiling over all of us and I said;;"Oh my" that's when I said Creative Mother Spirit.

Allene:And I am sitting here after [[Michael]] and [[realizing]] that this is coming and like [[visualizing]] this great ship coming right down from the ceiling over all of us and I said;;"Oh my" that's when I said Creative [[Mother Spirit]].

Julie: This was it. I felt that she was here earlier and I saw her...did you see her face? It was...

Julie: This was it. I felt that she was here earlier and I saw her...did you see her face? It was...

Patije:I kept seeing a face over Lise's shoulder. At first I thought it was one of those teddy bears over there in the corner and then I realized it wasn't. About the size of a tennis ball sitting on your shoulder.

Patije:I kept seeing a face over Lise's shoulder. At first I thought it was one of those teddy bears over there in the corner and then I realized it wasn't. About the size of a tennis ball sitting on your shoulder.

Lise::Oh, sitting on my shoulder! Sitting on my shoulder!?!?!? I wanted to ask the group, they said they don't mind group discussion..during all of this, and ah, I want to know sometimes I've felt my paternal grandmother has been close to me recently in the past three years or so. I've studies Urantia and known people go to a different world, and I wondered "how can that be so" you know, what's the deal? And the other question was if we have children growing up on the other side, I was told by a elderly gentleman that a young boy is close to me. He is about 16 years of age. Can anybody comment on those things - I mean does it sound like Hullabaloo to you.

Lise::Oh, sitting on my shoulder! Sitting on my shoulder!?!?!? I wanted to ask the group, they said they don't mind group [[discussion]]..during all of this, and ah, I want to know sometimes I've felt my paternal grandmother has been close to me recently in the past three years or so. I've studied [[Urantia]] and known people go to a [[different]] world, and I wondered "how can that be so" you know, what's the deal? And the other question was if we have children growing up on the other side, I was told by a elderly gentleman that a young boy is close to me. He is about 16 years of age. Can anybody comment on those things - I mean does it sound like Hullabaloo to you.

Patije: This is Patije talking. I am aware that there are many circuits now that are open and it is possible that although they are not with you personally it is possible that you are tuning into a circuit which they may be part of, perhaps the son-circuit, or the personality-circuit, or the spirit circuit, coming to you to give you comfort or something. I'm sure this is unclear because I'm not clear on it. The Urantia book tells us there is no communication - or at least was not prior to the final adjudication of Caligastia - of those who have passed out of Time and Space from their mortal life with those who remain in their mortal life experience. Perhaps the adjudication changed this. I don't know.

Patije: This is Patije talking. I am [[aware]] that there are many [[circuits]] now that are open and it is possible that although they are not with you personally it is possible that you are tuning into a circuit which they may be part of, perhaps the [[0:6 Energy and Pattern|Son-circuit, or the Personality-circuit, or the Spirit circuit]], coming to you to give you [[comfort]] or something. I'm sure this is unclear because I'm not clear on it. The [[Urantia book]] tells us there is no [[communication]] - or at least was not prior to the final [[adjudication]] of [[Caligastia]] - of those who have passed out of [[time and space]] from their [[mortal]] life with those who remain in their mortal life experience. Perhaps the [[adjudication]] changed this. I don't know.

Allene: I don't have this clearly in my mind because I am so - discussing this with my teachers about my brother who died about 1 and 1/2 years ago, when you were saying that, and how things have changed and the circuits are opened, I had the same idea. I "saw" my brother Ken, I saw so clearly him in the car when I was working with these circuits. He said:"Allene, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. Keep going." I'm like "Why don't you tell me, Ken" and he said "I can't" Well, when you said that just a flash - I can't explain it, I don't know, just a flash, it went through my mind that there are circuits opened for those on certain circuitry - I don't now how to explain it - but not all those who are deceased are available. Only certain ones are available in certain circuits for certain service on some level. I don't get it, but the circuits are opened for some. It just flashed through my mind, just as you were talking. I still can't explain it. And, I still don't totally understand it. I'm just sharing with you a glimmer went through my mind.

Allene: I don't have this [[clearly]] in my [[mind]] because I am so - [[discussing]] this with my [[teachers]] about my brother who died about 1 and 1/2 years ago, when you were saying that, and how things have changed and the [[circuits]] are opened, I had the same [[idea]]. I "saw" my brother Ken, I saw so clearly him in the car when I was working with these circuits. He said:"Allene, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. Keep going." I'm like "Why don't you tell me, Ken" and he said "I can't" Well, when you said that just a flash - I can't [[explain]] it, I don't know, just a flash, it went through my [[mind]] that there are circuits opened for those on certain circuitry - I don't now how to [[explain]] it - but not all those who are deceased are available. Only certain ones are available in certain circuits for certain service on some level. I don't get it, but the circuits are opened for some. It just flashed through my mind, just as you were talking. I still can't [[explain]] it. And, I still don't totally [[understand]] it. I'm just [[sharing]] with you a glimmer went through my mind.

Lise:When did this happen with your brother? two years ago?

Lise: When did this happen with your brother? two years ago?

Allene:March 1991

Allene: March 1991

Lise:Ok.

Lise: Ok.

Allene: Interesting, I was talking to Mary today and she said just in passing "I think you got some of his energy." I said: "I know I did." I'm not the same. I understand from the Urantia book how that part works, but the other part I think is difficult. I hate to discuss this so much because so much of what is going on Urantia is people who want to contact their deceased friends or family and I don't want to...

Allene: Interesting, I was talking to Mary today and she said just in passing "I [[think]] you got some of his [[energy]]." I said: "I know I did." I'm not the same. I understand from the [[Urantia book]] how that part works, but the other part I think is [[difficult]]. I hate to discuss this so much because so much of what is going on [[Urantia]] is people who want to contact their deceased friends or family and I don't want to...

Lise:I don't want to do that.

Lise: I don't want to do that.

Patije:A flash just came to me, but I don't know how it would do it from that side, but there is that genetic link too. And, he may have some ability to move in the genetic circuits...

Patije: A flash just came to me, but I don't know how it would do it from that side, but there is that [[genetic]] link too. And, he may have some [[ability]] to move in the genetic circuits...

Allene:I was thinking along these same lines..... those are somehow, there is some kind of...

Allene: I was [[thinking]] along these same lines..... those are somehow, there is some kind of...

Julie:You have to have the key to find the right circuit.

Julie: You have to have the key to find the right circuit.

Lise:I was just contacted by a friend who lost a brother this past September. I don't know if I am at the age to be hearing this...but mostly it is about people's children.

Lise:I was just contacted by a friend who lost a brother this past September. I don't know if I am at the age to be hearing this...but mostly it is about people's [[children]].

Julie:What is your age?

Julie: What is your age?

Lise:40. Maybe its the age you start hearing about

Lise:40. Maybe its the age you start hearing about

Patije:That's the age the "Thought Adjuster" is scheduled to become the "Thought Controller."

Patije: That's the age the "[[Thought Adjuster]]" is scheduled to become the "[[Thought Controller]]."

Allene:Right.

Allene:Right.

Lise:I don't know what that means.

Lise:I don't know what that means.

Patije:It means you are turning your life over to God - you know My will is to live God's will - and instead of adjusting your mind, he is actually controlling the thoughts in your mind.

Patije:It means you are turning your life over to [[God]] - you know My will is to live God's will - and instead of [[adjusting]] your [[mind]], he is actually [[controlling]] the [[thoughts]] in your mind.

Allene:Exactly, like when you started to speak in your group the other night - when...

Allene:Exactly, like when you started to speak in your [[group]] the other night - when...

Lise:Oh, that was wonderful..

Lise:Oh, that was wonderful..

Allene:Well, that's what happens when the Thought Adjuster takes control. And things you had intention of doing somehow flow and you don't have the right words - they just kind of come out. And, you don't always remember what you said. And sometimes when you are helping another person you have no recall of anything you said.

Allene:Well, that's what happens when the [[Thought Adjuster]] takes [[control]]. And things you had [[intention]] of doing somehow [[flow]] and you don't have the right [[words]] - they just kind of come out. And, you don't always [[remember]] what you said. And sometimes when you are helping another person you have no recall of anything you said.

Lise:You don't have to consciously ask?

Lise:You don't have to [[consciously]] ask?

Allene:No.

Allene:No.

Julie:Patije, excuse me, but when you were asking Michael for help, Michael put the word in my ear that "Your mission (Julie) is to help Patije." (laughter)

Julie:Patije, excuse me, but when you were asking [[Michael]] for help, Michael put the [[word]] in my ear that "Your [[mission]] (Julie) is to help Patije." ([[laughter]])

Patije:Good!

Patije:Good!

Allene:Oh, are you one of the secretaries coming to help?

Allene:Oh, are you one of the secretaries coming to help?

Julie:Michael put it in my ear. I haven't any time. And he said "But for this you will find time. Your mission is now to help Patije.

Julie:Michael put it in my ear. I haven't any time. And he said "But for this you will find time. Your [[mission]] is now to help Patije.

Patije:Thank you!

Patije:Thank you!

Lise:I'd like to help too, but I don't know how to transcribe.

Lise:I'd like to help too, but I don't know how to [[transcribe]].

Patije:Filing and running to post office is important too. I need counting...

Patije:Filing and running to post office is important too. I need counting...

Allene:There for awhile when I was unemployed it was nice because Patije taught me how to do this.

Allene:There for awhile when I was unemployed it was nice because Patije taught me how to do this.

Patije:Our transcriber or tape player with a foot pedal is old and I need a new one. However temperamental it is, I get some production from it. (pause) However, I need some typing down... and it needs to be typed into the computer so I can move it over to the other computer and incorporate it in what we are doing. Sometimes, I need someone to go through the stuff in the computer and check the spelling, change the margins, go through and do stuff - doesn't take any intelligence once you know how to do it, it is tedious and time-consuming and almost boring..

Patije:Our [[transcriber]] or tape player with a foot pedal is old and I need a new one. However temperamental it is, I get some production from it. (pause) However, I need some typing down... and it needs to be typed into the [[computer]] so I can move it over to the other computer and incorporate it in what we are doing. Sometimes, I need someone to go through the stuff in the computer and check the spelling, change the margins, go through and do stuff - doesn't take any [[intelligence]] once you know how to do it, it is [[tedious]] and time-consuming and almost boring..

Allene:It is really quite easy when you know how to do it.

Allene:It is really quite easy when you know how to do it.

Patije:And, it is time I don't have.

Patije:And, it is time I don't have.

Allene:And Patije's time is much better spent with the teachers, working with LorEL and Aflana, than sitting there being a secretary.

Allene:And Patije's time is much better spent with [[the teachers]], working with LorEL and Aflana, than sitting there being a [[secretary]].

Patije:I could use help addressing envelopes and check what is in the mailbox for each one so duplicates are sent.... that is time consuming stuff but has to be done!

Patije:I could use help addressing envelopes and check what is in the mailbox for each one so duplicates are sent.... that is time consuming stuff but has to be done!

Allene:You could keep a little list in there and everything that goes out to that person could be added to the list.

Allene:You could keep a little list in there and everything that goes out to that person could be added to the list.

Patije:That's what I do, but it takes time to write the lists too.

Patije:That's what I do, but it takes time to [[write]] the lists too.

Allene:No, but I was thinking it could be organized.

Allene:No, but I was thinking it could be [[organized]].

Patije:I have a bunch of Urantia newsletters in there which need to be sorted and put into their right file or notebook for easy access.

Patije:I have a bunch of [[Urantia]] newsletters in there which need to be sorted and put into their right file or notebook for easy [[access]].

Lise:I hear what you are saying and I do want to help but my time is my crunch right now and it's got to change for me. I don't know why it is such a crunch.

Lise:I hear what you are saying and I do want to help but my time is my crunch right now and it's got to change for me. I don't know why it is such a crunch.

Patije:Lise, your priority right now, when you have time, is to go into the stillness and then record your thoughts and begin communication with your teacher. This really is your priority. However, if you could type, you could come over and I could show you how to type it right into the computer and it is there and we can clean it up, print it and share it - I don't have to type it later.

Patije:Lise, your [[priority]] right now, when you have time, is to go into the [[stillness]] and then [[record]] your [[thoughts]] and begin [[communication]] with your [[teacher]]. This really is your priority. However, if you could type, you could come over and I could show you how to type it right into the [[computer]] and it is there and we can clean it up, print it and share it - I don't have to type it later.

Lise::I could type on a computer?!?

Lise::I could type on a [[computer]]?!?

Patije:Yes, if it is compatible with mine, it would save many hours of time in the long run.

Patije:Yes, if it is compatible with mine, it would save many hours of time in the long run.

Allene:I knew that Michael had said last night that he would be here tonight, but I had no idea that he was going to spend so much time. Usually he comes in and gives a little message and then he leaves. He practically took over from Aflana. We were ready to play the next game and he just took over.

Allene:I knew that Michael had said last night that he would be here tonight, but I had no [[idea]] that he was going to spend so much time. Usually he comes in and gives a little [[message]] and then he leaves. He practically took over from Aflana. We were ready to play the next game and he just took over.

Lise:May I ask you a question: There are many Michael Sons - correct?

Lise:May I ask you a question: There are many [[Michael Sons]] - correct?

Patije:There is only one in our Local universe of Nebadon.

Patije:There is only one in our [[Local universe]] of [[Nebadon]].

Lise:Ok, that is what I wanted to know. When you indicate that Michael is Jesus, I am shocked.

Lise:Ok, that is what I wanted to know. When you indicate that [[Michael]] is [[Jesus]], I am [[shocked]].

Julie:Michael was also known as Michael the Archangel. Mary and I were discussing this and suddenly it came to me when she told me about the picture of Michael slaying the dragon, that it could have been Caligastia that when Michael came the dragon (Caligastia)...

Julie:Michael was also known as [[Michael the Archangel]]. Mary and I were discussing this and suddenly it came to me when she told me about the picture of Michael slaying the dragon, that it could have been [[Caligastia]] that when Michael came the dragon (Caligastia)...

Allene:Yes.

Allene:Yes.

Patije:You know in the Bible, Michael and his archangels are mentioned and there is a church on Siesta Key which is named Michael the Archangel.

Patije:You know in the [[Bible]], Michael and his [[archangels]] are mentioned and there is a [[church]] on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siesta_Key,_Florida Siesta Key] which is named [http://www.stmichaelssiesta.com/index.html Michael the Archangel].

Julie:Mary's son gave her that picture for Christmas and when she was telling me about it, it suddenly came to me that he was slaying the dragon and since Jesus got rid of Caligastia while he was here I think that picture represents that.

Julie:Mary's son gave her that [[picture]] for [[Christmas]] and when she was telling me about it, it suddenly came to me that he was slaying the dragon and since [[Jesus]] got rid of [[Caligastia]] while he was here I think that [[picture]] represents that.

Allene:It just really hit me, it just really came to me - I've got tears in my eyes - from realizing - here we sit in this group of 4 with Michael and the Creative Mother Spirit almost taking over our class and they said they would stay with us. I'm slow and sometimes it takes me awhile to...

Allene:It just really hit me, it just really came to me - I've got tears in my eyes - from [[realizing]] - here we sit in this group of 4 with [[Michael]] and the Creative [[Mother Spirit]] almost taking over our class and they said they would stay with us. I'm slow and sometimes it takes me awhile to...

Lise:Oh, wow! That was something, wasn't it!

Lise:Oh, wow! That was something, wasn't it!

Patije:It just came to me that last spring, Avis told me: "I was sitting in the tub soaking after gardening, and it came to me that Michael was going to be the teacher for Sarasota." And, of course with everything that happened, I kind of let that go. I've never thought much about it with the group splitting up the way it did. But Michael has spent more and more and more time in both the Thursday night group and the Monday night groups. He taught in the Thursday night group one night for over an hour!

Patije:It just came to me that last spring, Avis told me: "I was sitting in the tub soaking after gardening, and it came to me that [[Michael]] was going to be the [[teacher]] for [[Sarasota TeaM|Sarasota]]." And, of course with [[everything]] that happened, I kind of let that go. I've never [[thought]] much about it with the group splitting up the way it did. But [[Michael]] has spent more and more and more time in both the Thursday night group and the Monday night groups. He taught in the Thursday night group one night for over an hour!

Allene:I hadn't thought about it until-

Allene:I hadn't thought about it until-

Lise:You're telling me that Jesus is teaching us?

Lise:You're telling me that [[Jesus]] is teaching us?

Allene:I'm practically crying over the reality.

Allene:I'm practically crying over the [[reality]].

Patije:The other day I got a call from Sonny in Hawaii and he said "I have had the strangest thing happen. I don't think it really happened but I want to check it you. I was feeling lighthearted and happy and I heard this I'm Aflana. You know that you know I am here and..."

Patije:The other day I got a call from [[Sonny Schneider|Sonny]] in [[Kona TeaM|Hawaii]] and he said "I have had the strangest thing happen. I don't think it really happened but I want to check it you. I was [[feeling]] lighthearted and [[happy]] and I heard this I'm Aflana. You know that you know I am here and..."

Lise:Wow!

Lise:Wow!

Patije:He continued: I heard "... the Light of God surrounds you, the Love of God upholds and enfold you" and he went on and on and on. He asked "could that have been Aflana clear over here?"

Patije:He continued: I heard "... the [[Light]] of [[God]] surrounds you, the [[Love]] of God upholds and enfold you" and he went on and on and on. He asked "could that have been [[Aflana]] clear over here?"

Allene: It is so amazing! This group - these two groups - I don't know what the other ones are doing so I can't speak for them, but these two groups on Thursday and Monday, it is interesting: One we have had Michael continually, we've had the Creative Mother Spirit, we've had more entities than any other group. Most of them have had one or two teachers and maybe visitors drop by from time to time. The other interesting thing is Aflana came originally, you know, as an emergency teacher. Aflana is the one that is the technical director and shows up in all these other groups and still maintains her teachership here - because it really is Aflana and LorEL. I put in that newsletter that VanEssa is a midwayer because she is not really a teacher. So we have had, Aflana stay with us, we have had VanEL with his technical stuff and working with us I know. From the beginning, while I'm not comparing things, when you look at the blessings this group has had, for such a small group, it is really astounding! So when you said to me the other day, when are they going to get on with more information, I'm like astounded to be a part of this.

Allene: It is so [[amazing]]! This [[group]] - these two groups - I don't know what the other ones are doing so I can't speak for them, but these two groups on Thursday and Monday, it is interesting: One we have had [[Michael]] continually, we've had the Creative [[Mother Spirit]], we've had more [[entities]] than any other group. Most of them have had one or two teachers and maybe [[visitors]] drop by from time to time. The other interesting thing is [[Aflana]] came originally, you know, as an emergency teacher. Aflana is the one that is the technical director and shows up in all these other groups and still maintains her teachership here - because it really is Aflana and LorEL. I put in that newsletter that VanEssa is a [[midwayer]] because she is not really a [[teacher]]. So we have had, Aflana stay with us, we have had VanEL with his technical stuff and working with us I know. From the beginning, while I'm not [[comparing]] things, when you look at the [[blessings]] this group has had, for such a small group, it is really astounding! So when you said to me the other day, when are they going to get on with more [[information]], I'm like astounded to be a part of this.

Lise:Wow!

Lise:Wow!

Julie:Quality and not quantity.

Julie:[[Quality]] and not [[quantity]].

Lise::Yeh, you're loaded with it.

Lise::Yeh, you're loaded with it.

Patije:So, we're the yeast and when we do these things...(everybody talking at once)

Patije:So, we're the [[yeast]] and when we do these things...(everybody talking at once)

Lise:Did you say we are a teaching group? What does that mean?

Lise:Did you say we are a teaching group? What does that mean?

Patije: We were told that Sarasota was a teaching headquarters...later Allene and I were told separately in our writings on the same night, that we were to begin to teach new transmitters in any way we could. I was told many would be brought to us to learn. Later, I was told that each of us have something to teach others whether they are new readers, new transmitters, new teachers of the UB, need to learn how to accept healing, or whatever...

Patije: We were told that Sarasota was a teaching [[headquarters]]...later Allene and I were told separately in our [[writings]] on the same night, that we were to begin to teach new [[transmitters]] in any way we could. I was told many would be brought to us to learn. Later, I was told that each of us have something to teach others whether they are new [[readers]], new transmitters, new teachers of the [[UB]], need to learn how to [[accept]] [[healing]], or whatever...

Allene: Indiana may be the healing headquarters. There was another group that was told that they were going to be the teaching center. there is going to be teaching centers in many levels.

Allene: [[Indianapolis TeaM|Indiana]] may be the [[healing]] [[headquarters]]. There was another group that was told that they were going to be the teaching center. there is going to be teaching centers in many levels.

Patije: We are going to be many teaching centers. We may just be a teaching center. But we are definitely a teaching center. I think there was some sort of iffy business when the group split. I think they thought we had defaulted but I think we are still carrying the ball ok, so they are not going to desert what they...

Patije: We are going to be many teaching centers. We may just be a teaching center. But we are definitely a teaching center. I think there was some sort of iffy business when the group split. I think they thought we had defaulted but I think we are still carrying the ball ok, so they are not going to desert what they...

Allene:If they are going to have a teaching center, why would Michael be coming here?

Allene:If they are going to have a teaching center, why would [[Michael]] be coming here?

Patije:I was told by Indianapolis and Hawaii, (I think) that Malaventa, one of the Melchizedeks are going to appear right here in Sarasota - work right here.

Patije:I was told by Indianapolis and Hawaii, (I think) that [[Malaventa]], one of the [[Melchizedeks]] are going to appear right here in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarasota,_Florida Sarasota] - [[work]] right here.

Allene: I'm not surprise. Remember, Melchizedek was that he told you or told me that one of the reasons that we don't often hear from him is because we are dong fine with our teachers. He checks in all the time, he knows what is happening. One of our questions, was: If this is going to be a teaching center, why don't we hear from Melchizedek? I did get something too interesting last night, from LorEl - about as sharp as she has every been said: "We hear you thinking about Patije's lovely messages. You, too, are different. You have different experiences. would it be any good if you two were both alike? And, by having totally different experiences you two will get a variety of things to look at if you get different things. WE know you are capable of doing this, but for what does this serve." (laughter) I felt like I had my wrists slapped last night! (laughter) And, I wasn't even thinking about it.

Allene: I'm not [[surprise]]d. Remember, [[Melchizedek]] was that he told you or told me that one of the reasons that we don't often hear from him is because we are dong fine with our [[teachers]]. He checks in all the time, he knows what is happening. One of our questions, was: If this is going to be a teaching center, why don't we hear from [[Melchizedek]]? I did get something too interesting last night, from LorEl - about as sharp as she has every been said: "We hear you [[thinking]] about Patije's lovely messages. You, too, are [[different]]. You have different [[experiences]]. would it be any [[good]] if you two were both alike? And, by having totally different [[experiences]] you two will get a variety of things to look at if you get different things. We know you are capable of doing this, but for what does this serve." ([[laughter]]) I felt like I had my wrists slapped last night! (laughter) And, I wasn't even [[thinking]] about it.

Patije: I've been thinking about how I am almost jealous of the Indianapolis group and I, too, was kind of chastened about that. "We've got things for you to do." I guess each group is totally different and will have a different purpose for the Corps, but all of us together are being groomed for our particular purpose.

Patije: I've been thinking about how I am almost [[jealous]] of the [[Indianapolis TeaM|Indianapolis group]] and I, too, was kind of [[chastened]] about that. "We've got things for you to do." I guess each [[group]] is totally different and will have a [[different]] [[purpose]] for the [[Reserve Corps|Corps]], but all of us [[together]] are being groomed for our particular [[purpose]].

Lise:Because of healing?

Lise: Because of [[healing]]?

Patije: No, because Welmek has got this great big group and they all read the Urantia book and are asking questions, and participating - and our group split up over that. They have children participating. And they seem to have several different meetings each week... (everybody talking at once)

Patije: No, because Welmek has got this great big group and they all [[read]] the [[Urantia book]] and are asking questions, and [[participating]] - and our group split up over that. They have children participating. And they seem to have several different meetings each week... (everybody talking at once)

Lise:Do I understand that I will be a teacher?

Lise: Do I understand that I will be a teacher?

Allene: It doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and spread it in different ways.

Allene: It doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and spread it in different ways.

Lise:I thought that was what we were doing, but then...

Lise:I thought that was what we were doing, but then...

Allene: We are being prepped to be teachers. That's the connection, but it doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and share in a different way.

Allene: We are being [[prepped]] to be [[teachers]]. That's the [[connection]], but it doesn't mean necessarily that you will have a teaching group. Maybe you won't have a teaching group. Maybe you will go out and [[share]] in a [[different]] way.

Patije:Whatever our contribution to the community or team will be is what we teach to the others that join us, or come to us for help.

Patije: Whatever our [[contribution]] to the [[community]] or team will be is what we teach to the others that join us, or come to us for help.

Allene:We will all share in different ways, but we will all be teaching. We are all being groomed to teach.

Allene: We will all [[share]] in [[different]] ways, but we will all be [[teaching]]. We are all being groomed to teach.

Aflana: (Allene)This is correct.

Aflana: (Allene)This is correct.

Patije:It is 11:30 pm.

Patije: It is 11:30 pm.

Aflana:You feel it is time to end this session? Then, I will say Farewell.

Aflana: You feel it is time to end this session? Then, I will say [[Farewell]].

Group:Farewell, Aflana

Group: Farewell, Aflana

==Session 5==

==Session 5==