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JarEL: Only through [[faith]] can you be able to partake of the unseen world. Your [[belief]] system is strong in [[the Father]] and this is sufficient to do [[good]] works in this [[existence]] and [[preparation]] for the next. You are given small [[glimpses]] of how things [[function]] in the [[Morontia]] world to aid you here to [[confirm]] to you, your being that life exists after your departure of this [[physical]] vessel. The [[Morontia]] existence is [[factual]].
 
JarEL: Only through [[faith]] can you be able to partake of the unseen world. Your [[belief]] system is strong in [[the Father]] and this is sufficient to do [[good]] works in this [[existence]] and [[preparation]] for the next. You are given small [[glimpses]] of how things [[function]] in the [[Morontia]] world to aid you here to [[confirm]] to you, your being that life exists after your departure of this [[physical]] vessel. The [[Morontia]] existence is [[factual]].
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From time to time throughout [[history]], [[seers]] have seen a [[glimpse]] of it and have [[written]] of these [[experiences]]. For you and this mission, the glimpses that you receive in participation with your teachers, should confirm your loyalty and dedication to being about your Father's business. It should urge you onward, forward, toward perfection, toward the goal of paradise ascension. One cannot walk the path with one foot in both worlds per se. Only through your faith and belief can you walk your path in this mortal existence with your eyes ever toward the next.
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From time to time throughout [[history]], [[seers]] have seen a [[glimpse]] of it and have [[written]] of these [[experiences]]. For you and [[this mission]], the glimpses that you receive in [[participation]] with your teachers, should confirm your [[loyalty]] and dedication to [[being about your Father's business]]. It should urge you onward, forward, toward [[perfection]], toward the goal of [[paradise ascension]]. One cannot walk the [[path]] with one foot in both worlds per se. Only through your [[faith]] and [[belief]] can you walk your path in this mortal [[existence]] with your eyes ever toward the next.
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HalThe knowing complete faith and the intellectual acceptance of the Father in the unseen world is adequate as we go about living in this world.
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Hal: The knowing complete [[faith]] and the [[intellectual]] [[acceptance]] of [[the Father]] in the unseen world is adequate as we go about living in this world.
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JarEL: This is so. Faith is the key. Faith unlocks the door to the next world. Your belief in the Father is testified by your acts in this life, insure resurrection. Your acceptance of the hereafter, your desire for eternal living, to venture on the eternal quest preparedness your conscious decision will be made. Such bright lights!!
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JarEL: This is so. Faith is the key. [[Faith]] unlocks the door to the next world. Your [[belief]] in the Father is testified by your [[acts]] in this life, insure [[resurrection]]. Your acceptance of the hereafter, your [[desire]] for eternal living, to venture on the eternal [[quest]] preparedness your conscious [[decision]] will be made. Such bright lights!!
    
Donna: JarEL, this is Donna.
 
Donna: JarEL, this is Donna.
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JarEL: Greetings Donna.
 
JarEL: Greetings Donna.
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Donna: Greetings. I was just thinking, it is not true that the eternal life starts here and now, and is it not true that eternal life is a quality of life, a quality of life that is infused with spiritual values and meanings and beliefs?
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Donna: Greetings. I was just [[thinking]], it is not true that the [[eternal]] life starts here and now, and is it not true that eternal life is a [[quality of life]], a quality of life that is [[infused]] with spiritual [[values]] and [[meanings]] and [[beliefs]]?
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JarEL: On this mortal realm, yes, but leaving the physical, ascending to the Morontia, it is continuous ascension. Values change, are increased. You began in the flesh and ascending to that perfect spirit.
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JarEL: On this mortal realm, yes, but leaving the [[physical]], [[ascending]] to the [[Morontia]], it is continuous ascension. [[Values]] change, are increased. You began in the flesh and ascending to that perfect spirit.
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Donna: Right, I understand that. This was a teaching that came from the church that I belong to, still belong to, which was taught us that eternal life also begins here, it begins in the here and now, even though there is progression ahead of us. That we should not think of it as something that is only ahead of us because it is also something that we can have a part of in the here and now. Do you understand, do you get what I am saying??
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Donna: Right, I [[understand]] that. This was a teaching that came from the [[church]] that I belong to, still belong to, which was taught us that [[eternal]] life also begins here, it begins in the here and now, even though there is [[progression]] ahead of us. That we should not think of it as something that is only ahead of us because it is also something that we can have a part of in the here and now. Do you [[understand]], do you get what I am saying??
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JarEL: Yes, this existence is the beginning of eternal life. It is a part thereof but the Morontia existence is the next phase that we are not totally privileged to experience while yet in the flesh. The glimpses are provided as confirmation to you.
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JarEL: Yes, this [[existence]] is the beginning of eternal life. It is a part thereof but the [[Morontia]] existence is the next [[phase]] that we are not totally [[privileged]] to experience while yet in the flesh. The [[glimpses]] are provided as [[confirmation]] to you.
    
Donna: Right, and JarEL you used the word seers a while back. I was wondering if you could speak something this idea of seers. The founder of the church for which I belong was also called a seer, Joseph Smith, prophet and seer, who supposedly had some revelations back in 1830 about God and the kingdom of heaven, which was the beginning of the Mormon church and also the RLDS church. Do you have any comments on this?
 
Donna: Right, and JarEL you used the word seers a while back. I was wondering if you could speak something this idea of seers. The founder of the church for which I belong was also called a seer, Joseph Smith, prophet and seer, who supposedly had some revelations back in 1830 about God and the kingdom of heaven, which was the beginning of the Mormon church and also the RLDS church. Do you have any comments on this?

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