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Light and Life occurs simply when the meaning and end of religion is realized by one and increasingly more persons, the vestibule of eternity where heaven and earth have disappeared but only because they no longer function as separate categories of experience.
Light and Life occurs simply when the meaning and end of religion is realized by one and increasingly more persons, the vestibule of eternity where heaven and earth have disappeared but only because they no longer function as separate categories of experience.
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Ron wrote: Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Hi Steffani and others,
Regarding the Melchizedek proposal to incarnate: Malsutia Melchizedek speaks with some authority on this question of appearance. He tells that they will appear in human form and represent all the races found on Urantia. In other words, they would be virtually impossible to tell apart from the normal appearance and variations of the current racial groups on Urantia.
While I do not know the reason for the number given of 24, it is these 24 who have been given the charge to set up the conditions on Urantia that will make the appearance of the Magisterial Son easier to comprehend on Urantia. They are also mindful of the exposition required to prepare Urantia for the return of Michael.
They do not require assistance in housing and other sustainment for being the flesh. They have already acquired housing and are establishing themselves within the communities they will operate from. It has been said that already there exists several houses in close proximity to some of you where the Melchizedek households are established and operating. Since this subject of location and operations is yet confidential I am not able to tell anyone more, and that is not to imply I know more than what I have said.
The big picture begins with the introduction of the Melchizedeks who have volunteered to undergo this exercise. Those volunteers are 24 in number initially.
There then follows an additional 12 Melchizedeks on the Magisterial staff who will be incarnated upon the arrival of Monjoronson on Urantia. The 12 Melchizedeks on staff serve a different function than the initial 24. The 12 on staff Melchizedeks are actually "retainers". Retainers play the role of overseeing the affairs of Urantia during the Magisterial Mission and act as a collective Planetary Prince.
Machiventa Melchizedek has been retained as the acting Planetary Prince on Urantia. However, he is also one of the 12 on-staff Melchizedeks who will incarnate with Monjoronson and will be the chief "retainer" for the duration of the mission.
The 12 Melchizedek retainers who appear with Monjoronson will incarnate in the likeness of mortal flesh and will be indistinguishable from the normal human appearance of our population just as the other 24 Melchizedeks shall appear.
There will be additional Melchizedeks appearing on Urantia aside from the group of 36 described above. Do not forget that Urantia will be divided into districts for the Magisterial Mission. No one has finally determined the number of these geographical districts, but they will number from about 50 to 100. Whatever the final number will be, each district will have a Melchizedek governor. Each district will contain a physical headquarters out of which will operate the various concerns having to do with the Magisterial Mission and the return of Michael. Humans will be on staff with the Melchizedeks in each of these districts.
At the very least we will have on Urantia 50 Melchizedek district governors plus the 36 spoken to earlier making a total of 86 visible Melchizedek representatives serving at one time. I would expect that the actual number may approach or be 100 incarnations of Melchizedeks when all is said and done, but the 100 number is a guess and not yet supported by any statements from the Melchizedeks themselves.
The Planetary government organization will change dramatically. It already has in places. The appearance of Monjoronson will signal the revisions designed into the system to actually take place.
The Planetary Prince as an administrative office will be revised.
Because Christ Michael is the Planetary Prince of Urantia, his appearance on Urantia will signal his assumption of that office until he returns to Salvington.
To accommodate his assumption of the office of the Planetary Prince when he arrives on Urantia, the acting Planetary Prince, Machiventa Melchizedek, will be transferring his authority to acting as Chief of the Melchizedek Order of Twelve, the body of retainers acting on behalf of Monjoronson in the governance of Urantia aside from the duties Christ Michael will assume as the Planetary Prince.
No information has yet become available of the final disposition of the various personnel in the Urantia spiritual government after Michael returns to Salvington and after Monjoronson finishes his work on Urantia. I think we need to understand we are speaking to the passage of at least 1,000 years before these future questions can be addressed on our level.
The Urantia Book itself warns the readers of the text that what is outlined in the Urantia Book may not actually be transform Urantia, and that the Book discusses processes that a normal planet would follow to change from one dispensation to another, and from one divine visitation to another.
From [[Paper 57]]
([[56:7|56:7.5]]) " Each new evolutionary attainment within a sector of creation, as well as every new invasion of space by divinity manifestations, is attended by simultaneous expansions of Deity functional-revelation within the then existing and previously organized units of all creation. This new invasion of the administrative work of the universes and their component units may not always appear to be executed exactly in accordance with the technique herewith outlined because it is the practice to send forth advance groups of administrators to prepare the way for the subsequent and successive eras of new administrative overcontrol. Even God the Ultimate foreshadows his transcendental overcontrol of the universes during the later stages of a local universe settled in light and life."
Urantia's disdain-ment is to be turned into its attain-ment through a simultaneous injection of evolutionary change with an attendant change in its destiny-status. The Master Spirits underlined Michael's announcement several years ago by sustaining Michael on his announced intention to use Urantia as part of the Salvington educational worlds for the work of ascension and the study of the Lucifer rebellion. When Michael appears on Urantia, regardless of what else he appears to do, he will assume the duties of Chief Director of the School for the Study of Rebellion. This school now existing on Edentia is being moved to Urantia with Christ Michael becoming its head.
The appearance of the Melchizedeks in the flesh spoken to above represent the invasion of space by divinity manifestations not predictable at the time of the original Urantia Book disclosures. At best it can be said the book understood the presence of the 12 Melchizedek functions on the Magisterial Staff, but the addition of more than that was not seen at that 20th century stage of revelatory discussions. Nor were the divinity manifestations of the Master Spirits seen in the early Urantia Book to be remotely concerned with the outworking of the rebellion consequences on Urantia and in Satania. And perhaps the greatest divinity manifestation to unfold on Urantia which was completely underreported by the Urantia Book, is the unique position of Michael and the Father in the unfolding affairs of Urantia. These relationships are worthy of several new chapters in the second volume of the text to be offered sometime probably in the next century.
The quote cited from [[Paper 57]] reminds us that when the revelators established a narrative for us to understand, that the narrative itself may no longer be entirely true or will events unfold as the text outlines as a normal process to be followed.
What is essential to grasp for the reader and teaching mission advocate is that the vision of a Urantia outlined in the first Urantia Book is no longer entirely valid. Now I am talking about Urantia and not speaking to each individuals relationship to Jesus and the Father - those are separate considerations for another time. But I am speaking to the entire system of revelation given to us over 70 years ago as being outdated enough that it sends to the mind some expectations of changes that will be overridden and expanded far beyond what people even on the spiritual side of the equation thought would or could happen. The Book is the best reference volume on the planet for definitions and relationship discussions. But its cosmology of what Urantia is to become can not be said to be true in every respect anymore. I foresee this mismatch of print and actual accomplishment to cause a great deal of angst and even misbehavior when the divine missions actually come to Urantia to begin the Father business of reclamation.
This change from what the reference text is stating and what is to become, causes more people to doubt the whole thing then it should, but it is the case right now. I do not know what Monjoronson or Michael or even the Master Spirits will do about the disconnect with the present generation of readers concerning what they read and then what they are told. There may be a period of broken connections for a while between what is printed and what is being established. However this problem when addressed, I am sure they will find a way and be successful in bringing it to our attention.
The secret of incarnation is to be found on Sonarington and it is in a sector of that sacred sphere we are never allowed to visit. What that means consequentially is that the appearance of flesh and blood in an incarnated divinity appears just like that regardless of the nature of that flesh and blood. Vicegerington holds the secrets about how divinity may incarnate and actually represent the Deities on Paradise. Again, unless we are trinitized for specific service which requires our incarnation and representation of some one of the functions of Paradise Deity, that sector too is withheld from our experience. The Urantia Book makes no excuses for keeping manifestation secrets about the personnel assembled from the spiritual hierarchy who gather on Urantia to reclaim her. As in any mystery then, there are plenty of questions but almost no explanation to all that can be seen.
And the changes Urantia is to undergo very soon will never be understood by everyone even in spirit.
Manotia writes: "The world of Urantia begins its trek toward being well again through the manifestation of thought brought forward through myriads of spiritual persons who understand as much about the spiritual administration on Urantia as I do. However, there are elements of the proposed changes to Urantia that even we, Completion Seraphim, can not persuade ourselves is entirely possible, much less operable within the confines of Nebadon."
Ron
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Marty wrote: Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM
<blockquote>At 09:00 PM 5/19/2012, you wrote:
TML and Steffani
I am glad to discuss these aspects with you, Steffani. Just don't lead me down the garden path to the "gotcha" stuff. I don't like it any more than you do or anyone else does. If this were not so important I would probably pass and just let the whole subject slip down the drain on the list. You and many others are not understanding there is a shift in priorities on Urantia and the way it is to be redone on Urantia does not follow the regular paths laid down by the Urantia Book. You do not have to believe me, but if you wish to comprehend the nature of these changes, it is best to allow some information come to you without stepping all over me and the spiritual personalities who sponsor these changes.</blockquote>
"A shift in the priorities"
Ron, this is the problem that we are having. Priorities are constantly shifting in our personal lives, in our households, in our political lives, and worldwide. Our personal decisions regarding these priorities are our creative effort to build our life situation; our freewill intentions and desires.
Spiritual priorities, however, never change. Spiritual priorities are God's will for us personally, in our social lives and for our world in the progressive attainment of the Supreme. It is all the love of God to be manifested by us in our lives. The very purpose of our lives is the doing of the will of God. That is the only priority of relevance that we all have. We are all learning how to do this;. It is an experiential learning experience in our relationship with God.
The "shift in priorities" of which you speak lies in a realm hidden to us mortals.
It is God's will for each one of us, presented to us within, that will enable us to relate to the divine decrees regarding the outworking of the Correcting Time.
And, you are announcing these changes of priorities like a railroad conductor announcing the departures and arrivals of trains whose schedules have been thrown out due to a storm or other such mishap.
<blockquote>First, you and a few others on this list keep making the mistake it is just Ron's beliefs. That is not so. I do not believe in guesses. I rely on what is told by the highest spiritual personalities in the universe which the teaching mission continues to fail to engage for their own education. It is your belief these are my beliefs - that gets us no where. You attempt to confirm this view by dicing me and the messages up with your past experiences that are no longer operable as far as the teaching mission is going to operate very shortly. It would be greatly helpful to allow some messaging to come through and begin to make an impression on you. Rather than fighting every word uttered why not put that energy in a genuine effort to understand what is being told and how it will work in the big picture. Your opinions will come later.</blockquote>
What I do about this difference of opinion about the mortal guesswork around the outworking of the Correcting time is pay attention to everything that is reported from individuals, T/Rs, channelers, writers and websites worldwide. I call it the Greater Teaching Mission which is the voice of God as it is being heard by Urantians of all sorts with the multitude of hang-ups that we have.
Lets face it. We do not directly receive the universe broadcasts. We do not even posses Harps of God to enable us to hear them. We are dependent upon imperfect mortal transmission of these messages from heaven and, though you keep telling us about direct reception which is new, the messages hardly sound like divine broadcasts and the receivers of these messages are closeted in secrecy.
The Teaching Mission has a special place in this Correcting Time since we have the UB as our text and the Teaching Mission experience bringing it to life. Now you speak of broadcasts other than T/Ring and we have a new phenomenon to consider and to relate to.
I have heard people calling T/Rs frauds and now your broadcasts are being questioned. This brings up the matter of trust which we are all working on regarding our own trustworthiness or our trust of our peers. In any case it is best to bring this up publicly as a social quest and to discuss this phenomenon at length. Your request for our trust requires greater transparency.
<blockquote>It is no illusion. Monjoronson is going to open the new dispensation on Urantia shortly. He will set the conditions on Urantia in various ways that will serve to introduce the second return of Michael to his bestowal planet. These are the plans in the big picture. The details have not been released except to announce that 24 Melchizedeks are in the process of incarnating now. They will make themselves known soon enough.</blockquote>
These are your beliefs that came to you as messages from unknown (to us) receivers.
<blockquote>Because the teaching mission has stopped transmitting celestial personalities who could have informed you of these changes, the mission people have gotten way behind in assimilating their part in the events to unfold.</blockquote>
That is an unfortunate opinion that has no basis in truth imo. Father is reaching everyone of us who communes with him about these matters.
<blockquote>Second, it is both frustrating and very irritating to hear opinions that have nothing to do with the facts of the operation I have been privileged to work with. </blockquote>
That is because you operate as a secret CIA asset and come out with seemingly preposterous claims.
<blockquote>I do not work alone. I work with at least six other transmitters each assigned a specific task in the broadcasting of materials whether they are new or old. Since the network is designed to receive from outside of the local universe, we operate in a slightly different way than the classroom. In effect, we are receivers of broadcasts and you will never understand the difference unless the teaching mission or yourself avails themselves to the way they do things.</blockquote>
Tell us about this group. Who are they? What is their receptive technique? Did they volunteer for their tasks? Are they all perfect at the job they are doing? Are they a special mortal corps of destiny?
<blockquote>The Deities on Paradise with their Master Spirit Voices do not ask if there decisions are okay with you or me; they tell you what their decisions are and you accommodate their wishes.</blockquote>
This does not sound to me like Father's way.
<blockquote>Where are your voices and offers of service? Where are you placing your desires if not in the Michael plans for Urantia?</blockquote>
The Teaching Mission has had many purposes and results, the Correcting Time being the main effort. I have celebrated meeting our celestial family and learning something of the manner of universe social life.What network do you speak of here about the return of Michael? You are the only one from whom I have heard this.
<blockquote>And it is not that you have not been invited. You have been, and frequently [BY YOU]. But the deaf ear people turn to what is being told indicates on the highest levels the teaching mission human personnel are not interested or are they caring that Michael wishes their service for himself when he arrives on this world to begin his second return and whatever he wishes to do with it.</blockquote>
This is a very rash judgement which has no ground in truth.
<blockquote>Where are your voices and offers of service? Where are you placing your desires if not in the Michael plans for Urantia?</blockquote>
<blockquote>So long as the teaching mission exists as currently run - and it is run in response in to what the group is willing to take on or do - there will be no confirmations and you will continue to make the error that these operations are haphazard and faulty. They are not either, and it is not a belief we send to you, but facts based on solid transmissions coming through the superuniverse and Havona through a network of at least six individuals bound together to get the full picture. They are not doing that for the fun of it! They are doing it because Michael is returning! Paradise is in charge of implementing the Father's will on Urantia, and it is the Father's will that Michael come as quickly to Urantia as is possible.</blockquote>
That is very far out Ron. Six people, you say? who are they?
<blockquote>Third, all of you make errors in judgement that what you hear through The FLURRY or The ABC Summaries are somehow made through my particular demands, choices, or mechanization. Other than proofing and organizing these materials, it is not me but the network broadcasting pertinent data that would greatly help everyone of you to understand the era you are about to come into. Without it you will join the larger population who will react with fear and pani</blockquote>
I have enjoyed and valued these transcripts as much as I value those from Donna and Daniel. However let me repeat that I do not take the words that come through as truth. I pay attention to the spirit of the messages and give them to Father in my heart where they are given truth or thrown into the recycling bin.
<blockquote>Somehow the motions must be made in each of the minds on this list that you will move toward some resolution of the stalemate so many are in as to which way to turn and what to do about the position you may find yourself in. We already know one individual on this list attacks without understanding what she attacks. We have others who just support these views without understanding they are complicit in unacceptable behavior among those who should know better.</blockquote>
These are opinions that you have. Not facts.
<blockquote>This evening the network broadcast this response to the situation on TML. They hear everything my friends and nothing escapes their attention especially when the subject of cooperation is being threatened to become inoperable again on TML. I have no intention of identifying this message other than to say it comes from the completion seraphim who are part of the Michael bestowal commission now in full operation on Urantia.</blockquote>
Posting this transcript without its human receiving source is an unfortunate happening, Ron.
<blockquote>The Supreme Seraphim Manotia and Loyalatia jointly expressed the following on 5/19/2012:
"With sadness we observe the exchange that is currently taking place in the forum where the Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission are taking place. The very few hands that are currently available to do the immense amount of work to be undertaken must not delve into discussions where personal feelings are taking over reason, and most importantly, personal attacks are completely out of place in the forum and out of character when associated with the dedicated readers of the Urantia book that participate in the aforementioned forums.
"Dear brothers and sisters, pay attention instead to what is required to be done in order to support the extraordinary and divine work that is about to take place on this sphere. You must not mimic the sad practice that very unfortunately some of the original followers of Jesus fell into, that of passing judgment on others’ views as far as Father’s special enterprises and His message, conveyed by our sovereign Creator Son, are concerned.
"Look inside of you; seek Father’s own validation of what is being transmitted via His representative in your being, the divine Thought Adjuster. I assure all of you that what lies ahead will be very hard and difficult work that might even entail possible personal harm. When there are doubts or questions about a transmission, seek the answers inside of you and refrain from feeding the soul with negative energies that stain it; the soul that you fight so hard to clean through your service and dedication to the Universal Father.
"Like it is said on Urantia, “roll up your sleeves and get to work”. Be a guiding light to others and honor Father with your personal example. We want to remind you all that what the Father has so lovingly but firmly requested will be done here, and soon, regardless of the opinion or level of understanding of the average mortal alive today on this sphere. Prepare yourselves to be the humble mortal representatives of Father’s glorious ministry of love and mercy."
END
I would be happy to provide everyone of you just how this works and what it brings to Urantia.</blockquote>
WELL HOW ABOUT IT?
<blockquote>None of us are being asked to dismantle the teaching mission, but we are being asked to adjust to the new teaching mission where it is possible to hear beyond the corp of teachers trained by Michael to now also hear the outer reaches of Nebadon, the Major Sectors, Uversa, and Havona and Paradise. Let us put aside the personal dislikes long enough to actually get some work done on behalf of the Magisterial Mission upon which Michael depends to open the door to his soon-time return.</blockquote>
Does this mean that you want us to just listen to everything that you tell us without question?
<blockquote>Much is to be learned, but there are few of you on TML that want the new earth to flow forth without you setting conditions on how you are willing to participate. How does that work when the Father's will seeks no conditions on it? Where I come from, one goes where the truth goes regardless of how that damages expectations and our own comfort levels. Creation is chaotic and demanding and there is little room to allow decision makers and service guides to sit on their laurels of their yesterdays.</blockquote>
Why do you talk down to us like this?
<blockquote>Feel free Steffani, to ask again anything I have no covered in these explanations.
Ron</blockquote>
Marty
