Talk:2014-03-02-Experience Guided Meditation for Healing

Marty Risacher wrote to 20 persons: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:15 AM

I suspect that many of you probably already got this but I wanted to share it with you in the event that you did not.

Another "wow" lesson!!! If any of you try this, please let me know the results.

Deborah Goaldman Obershaw wrote: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:52AM

Dear Marty,

Thanks for sharing this transmission—helping others heal is an important new ministry for me. Would you ask Ophelius to expound more on the taking on of another’s affliction? While reading about this, I had a strong negative response based on a past experience of mine. In that experience I asked to be given the pain that a dear person of mine was suffering. I focused on this intently and fervently. This person did experience the subsidence of pain after our session was done. I felt fine but in less than a week I began suffering from a mysterious ailment which did not respond to the doctor’s medication—it had been misdiagnosed. The problem rectified itself in a surprising way so I turned out fine. But, this taught me that it is best to help others by not absorbing their affliction. Ophelius is telling us to absorb their affliction. Although I do understand the reason (deepen compassion) and I see that it includes another step—receiving energetic healing for self that is then transmitted to the other person. I didn’t do that important step. However, I still think it is safer to hold the focus of healing energy directly flowing into the person. I also ask that the energy flow into me and be channeled through me to the other person, but I do not deliberately take on their stuff anymore. The final step is also important: visualize the recipient healed, vital, and joyful and feeling the happiness inside myself.

Another question for Ophelius: Sometimes I get asked to pray for the healing of someone who is nearing death and I feel conflicted because what if death is part of the healing. I don’t know what is most needed for that person. I do know that their loved ones need help with the grieving process so I include them in my prayers. I would like to know what Ophelius has to say about this or what anyone reading this has to say.

Thanks, deborah

Donna D'Ingillo wrote: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:11PM

Hi All: I saw this message today as I subscribe to George’s email list. This message surprises me as it speaks about taking on other’s afflictions in order to heal them.

From my personal experience, I believe that this practice of taking on another’s afflictions is very dangerous and should NOT be used as a focus for healing. An inexperienced healer would be very susceptible to taking on more than one is consciously and subconsciously able to handle in their body and not able to diminish the energies of the affliction easily. While from a more idealistic perspective and a purity of heart and mind, this could work as described in the message, most people are not capable to handling another person’s energies and could likely be settling themselves up for some difficulty in releasing the diseased energy. I have experienced this myself in the earlier days of my healing career, so it mystifies me why this teacher would promote this.

Instead, another focus would be to feel compassion for that person and to ask for Father’s WILL to move in that individual. Ask for your Adjuster to liaise with the afflicted person’s Adjuster. A focus could be to visualize the words, “ABC’s Adjuster” and simply ask for Father to build His LOVE into that person. Holding that focus and intention is enough to bring in the flow of healing energy into that person. Think of the focus as using a direct current of LOVE from Father (in electric terms a D/C), while what the message speaks of is an alternate current (or A/C). Which one would seem more effective? It’s always best to ask for Father’s WILL to prevail in another individual as we don’t know in what manner Father would like to bring this person into wholeness and wellness.

As with any message, it’s always prudent to take that into stillness and ask for clarification so that no undue stress is placed upon the psyche. Hope this provides some clarification.

In loving service, Donna

Bonnie Klatt wrote: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:20PM

Hi everyone: I did take this into stillness with my Adjuster and received an "NO - do not try this." -- blessings, Bonnie

Rob Davis wrote: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:54PM

Dear Marty,

Thank you for inviting the thoughts of others regarding this lesson TR'd by Chris from Ophelius. As usual, when there is discussion of such lessons, I like to flag the lesson directing the reader to the discussion page for "questions raised by this document". If any has reservations about their name appearing with their comments, let me know, and I will remove them accordingly, but the comments themselves are as valuable as the lesson and should be available to the many anonymous readers of these lessons.

Gratefully,

Rob Davis

Rosemary Stallworth wrote: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:05PM

Hello Precious Ones...

Well....Here's what I'm thinking about the message from Teacher Ophelius via Chris Maurus in Michigan...I'm thinking that the message from Ophelius is an IDEAL way to maximize healing of individuals (on Urantia)...which amounts to the "laying down of one's life for another," but I don't like the strategy and I hope I'm never called upon to try it.

Most of you who grew up in the Christian Tradition will remember that there is a Christian Scripture that insists that Jesus (on the Cross of Calvary)...BORE OUR SINS, HEALED ALL OUR DISEASES...as he fulfilled the Will of the Father. Two of these scriptures are...(if you're interested in reviewing these scriptures...See Isaiah 53:4-6; I Peter 2:24)....All to say...

Here's a possibility....This "Guided Meditation for Healing" teaching of Ophelius, transmitted by Chris in Michigan, may represent a Christ Consciousness Power that will be available to those who will soon move about the earth...with the power of "The Christ" to heal. Who knows? I appreciate your cautions, Donna, Deborah, Bonnie. I agree with you....And I don't even want to try this....but I am willing to entertain the idea that this power may be available to us as we move forward to BE as Jesus Christ WAS in the world when he visited us here on Urantia in order to reveal the LOVE of the Father...which includes, as all of us now know.....HEALING FOR THE NATIONS.

Again, I don't know what the Teacher Ophelius is instructing us to do with regard to healing here; however, I am willing to accept the instructions as an ideal way for those among us who live as "little Christs" in the world to bring healing at real and desperately painful levels. (Also...I HOPE I don't EVER feel the call to lay down my life in such a way.)

Just my thoughts...What do I know?...Not much. Rosemarie

"LIVE COURAGEOUSLY! To control your future, take control of your choices, for they make up your future in the end." Valdir Soares

March 16, 2014

Leoma Sparer wrote: Mar 16, 2014 at 8:42PM

I agree with you, Donna and Bonnie. Why would you even need to take on another's affliction? I don't believe this is the model Jesus left for us to follow. Usually healers are warned to be careful NOT to take on another's energy, but to ask for any that may have unintentionally been picked up to be released from their being after the session is over. - Leoma

Rob Davis wrote: Mar 16, 2014 at 9:18 PM

I wish to thank everyone for the demonstration of discernment by offering their appraisals while allowing others the space to share their own. It is heartening to witness the realization of this capability described as:

You humans tend to believe what you see with your eyes, and doubt what you feel with your heart. We desire the opposite -- to believe what you feel with your heart, with your soul, and doubt what you see with your eyes. Faith means to believe in something so real that all the evidence, all the sensory evidence to the contrary, cannot dissuade you from the truth that you know with your soul. So you must discern the words of truth with the method that can best do that, with your soul, with your heart. - Ham

Many times I sense that visible lessons that are intrinsically fallible are given so that we may master the more important invisible lesson of discerning the infallible guide(s) within us.

March 17, 2014

Donna D'Ingillo wrote: Mar 17, 2014 at 7:36AM

Thanks, Rob!

Edmund Kuell wrote: Mar 17, 2014 at 9:18AM

He says he meant this only as an initial exercise to help relatively compassionless newbe healers feel something. And develop trust. And learn the mechanics. (advertising snipped)

March 19, 2014

Jim Cleveland wrote: Mar 19, 2014 at 9:51AM

Hello all, very interesting discussion but there is a nucleus of information that should be considered.

Let's add George Barnard of the 11.11 movement to the chat. Ophelia is one of the various global transmitters in this movement which is essentially controlled by the Midwayers.

They get messages from other personalities in addition to Midwayers. i don't recall Ophelius' order.

I am a longtime member of the Teaching Mission and greatly appreciate our archives. But many of these condensed messages via 11.11 are strikingly impactful in giving you new insights and perspectives. I will be including a series of 11.11 messages in the second volume of the Teaching Mission history.

As for Ophelia's message, I'm not getting it yet. And perhaps some transmitters inadvertently color their transmissions based on their own beliefs.

Beliefs are a trap. Get rid of them to be an effective TR.

Call George somebody. He's a cantankarous coot sometimes but very real. He's on Facebook.

Jim