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| Teacher: Yes, and as I have said, you may [[receive]] an answer not in the [[manner]] you had [[expected]]. Yes. | | Teacher: Yes, and as I have said, you may [[receive]] an answer not in the [[manner]] you had [[expected]]. Yes. |
| ===='''''[[Fanaticism]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Fanaticism]]'''''==== |
− | Tommas: There was a programme on Television the other day we recorded it, I haven’t watched it yet, "[http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html The Sword of Islam]" and it's about [[Moslems]], and their [[idea]] is to [[convert]] the world to their [[belief]], and kill, and die in the attempt doing it. | + | Tommas: There was a programme on Television the other day we recorded it, I haven’t watched it yet, "[https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html The Sword of Islam]" and it's about [[Moslems]], and their [[idea]] is to [[convert]] the world to their [[belief]], and kill, and die in the attempt doing it. |
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| Teacher: Yes, yes... | | Teacher: Yes, yes... |
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| "They misunderstood his [[words]] as well. | | "They misunderstood his [[words]] as well. |
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− | Teacher: They, by [[choice]], have misunderstood, yes. In the beginning they did not misunderstand and great benefit came from the [[words]] he [[spoke]]. Those who have put themselves at the head of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law Islamic Laws] do wrong by [[human]] kind, | + | Teacher: They, by [[choice]], have misunderstood, yes. In the beginning they did not misunderstand and great benefit came from the [[words]] he [[spoke]]. Those who have put themselves at the head of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law Islamic Laws] do wrong by [[human]] kind, |
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| Petta Will there be an end to it all, or will they just go on until they [[annihilate]] each other | | Petta Will there be an end to it all, or will they just go on until they [[annihilate]] each other |
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| Teacher: I shall not say yeah or nay, you have the power to [[change]] or not the [[choice]] belongs to the rest of [[humankind]]. It is not good to fight with the fighting equipment they use. Use the [[method]] I have suggested, is the only [[manner]]. | | Teacher: I shall not say yeah or nay, you have the power to [[change]] or not the [[choice]] belongs to the rest of [[humankind]]. It is not good to fight with the fighting equipment they use. Use the [[method]] I have suggested, is the only [[manner]]. |
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− | Melda I've just been [[reading]] about the, I don't quite know how you say it, the [[Rishi]], in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_India India], and apparently they have the [[power]] to [[change]] a [[negative]] situation that is [[dangerous]] to a [[positive]] situation, is this the same thing | + | Melda I've just been [[reading]] about the, I don't quite know how you say it, the [[Rishi]], in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_India India], and apparently they have the [[power]] to [[change]] a [[negative]] situation that is [[dangerous]] to a [[positive]] situation, is this the same thing |
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| Teacher: You see, I have said, my [[message]] to [[humanity]] has not been heard, it was, DO NOT [[Sacrifice|SACRIFlCE]] I did not [[learn]] this myself, until almost too late for the life of my son. It was taught to me DO NOT SACRlFlCE, and I misunderstood. It is still of great [[pain]] for myself that I did not leave my [[message]] of [[clarity]] for [[humankind]], sacrifice is not for [[GOD]]. Is not for GOOD. Is not for LOVE. Is not for [[truth]]. | | Teacher: You see, I have said, my [[message]] to [[humanity]] has not been heard, it was, DO NOT [[Sacrifice|SACRIFlCE]] I did not [[learn]] this myself, until almost too late for the life of my son. It was taught to me DO NOT SACRlFlCE, and I misunderstood. It is still of great [[pain]] for myself that I did not leave my [[message]] of [[clarity]] for [[humankind]], sacrifice is not for [[GOD]]. Is not for GOOD. Is not for LOVE. Is not for [[truth]]. |
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− | And these persons who are brethren of all [[humankind]], who came from the [[seed]] of my son, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael], have not learnt, DO NOT SACRIFICE. He was cast aside with his [[Mother]], [[sacrificed]] by myself, for the sake of my first born son. I did not [[understand]], I beg [[humankind]] to [[understand]]. Therein lies the [[root]] of [[difficulties]] which exist still with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab] & the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Jew] and the rest of [[humankind]]. | + | And these persons who are brethren of all [[humankind]], who came from the [[seed]] of my son, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael], have not learnt, DO NOT SACRIFICE. He was cast aside with his [[Mother]], [[sacrificed]] by myself, for the sake of my first born son. I did not [[understand]], I beg [[humankind]] to [[understand]]. Therein lies the [[root]] of [[difficulties]] which exist still with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab] & the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Jew] and the rest of [[humankind]]. |
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| When you give a [[message]] be certain of the [[clarity]] in which you deliver. Be certain of the [[understanding]] of your [[message]], as I should have done. I have the [[opportunity]] to teach still, and this is the [[message]] I teach | | When you give a [[message]] be certain of the [[clarity]] in which you deliver. Be certain of the [[understanding]] of your [[message]], as I should have done. I have the [[opportunity]] to teach still, and this is the [[message]] I teach |
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| Teacher: Correct, and they, and on, it is as the ripples in a pond. You may [[appear]] to be a small [[number]], but there are many such as you. Many others I teach. And there is One who [[intends]] to do much. Give him the [[power]] of your [[thought]] for the [[courage]] to do that, which he must do. You may be [[unknown]] to him, and him to you. But his name shall be familiar | | Teacher: Correct, and they, and on, it is as the ripples in a pond. You may [[appear]] to be a small [[number]], but there are many such as you. Many others I teach. And there is One who [[intends]] to do much. Give him the [[power]] of your [[thought]] for the [[courage]] to do that, which he must do. You may be [[unknown]] to him, and him to you. But his name shall be familiar |
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− | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael ISHMAEL] | + | [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael ISHMAEL] |
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| whether it be in this [[physical]] [[journey]] or another it is for his [[choice]]. But each may do much. So, you [[worry]], you have no query. | | whether it be in this [[physical]] [[journey]] or another it is for his [[choice]]. But each may do much. So, you [[worry]], you have no query. |
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− | Filip The sort of things we have looked at and sort of [[spoken]] about, there are lots of things that you have said before, the [[words]] are the same, it's happening all over. This guy on this [http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html Sword of Islam] thing, he was [[aware]], or he'd got the same [[ideas]] really as us, but through so many hundreds or thousands of years of mis-guidedness through [[Mohammed]], it's just off, slightly, but are they slowly becoming [[aware]] each to each, the [[amalgamation]] of the [[churches]], different [[religions]] all becoming more aware of the same one [[God]]. | + | Filip The sort of things we have looked at and sort of [[spoken]] about, there are lots of things that you have said before, the [[words]] are the same, it's happening all over. This guy on this [https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html Sword of Islam] thing, he was [[aware]], or he'd got the same [[ideas]] really as us, but through so many hundreds or thousands of years of mis-guidedness through [[Mohammed]], it's just off, slightly, but are they slowly becoming [[aware]] each to each, the [[amalgamation]] of the [[churches]], different [[religions]] all becoming more aware of the same one [[God]]. |
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− | Teacher: You see, who is [[perceived]] as the head of [[Islam]], who is perceived as the head of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism Anglican religion], of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism Catholic religion] etc, etc., it is not [[God]]. It was always mans [[desire]] to [[perceive]] [[God]], [[personified]]. It was always God's [[wish]] to not be so. It was always mans [[desire]] to use God to give [[power]] to all [[humankind]] and was used in this [[manner]] and still is | + | Teacher: You see, who is [[perceived]] as the head of [[Islam]], who is perceived as the head of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism Anglican religion], of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism Catholic religion] etc, etc., it is not [[God]]. It was always mans [[desire]] to [[perceive]] [[God]], [[personified]]. It was always God's [[wish]] to not be so. It was always mans [[desire]] to use God to give [[power]] to all [[humankind]] and was used in this [[manner]] and still is |
| ===='''''[[Humanity]]'''''==== | | ===='''''[[Humanity]]'''''==== |
| Charlemont You have [[touched]] on the [[nerve]] point I've been trying to get to. If we come across a [[human]] who does not [[wish]] this [[power]] as was with [[Jesus]] that knows of the [[God]] and has a following, what would we do coming across that [[person]], who was Christed in such a way, would we not fall back into that same [[pattern]] of human kind ways of saying this is the man who's [[leading]] our [[belief]] | | Charlemont You have [[touched]] on the [[nerve]] point I've been trying to get to. If we come across a [[human]] who does not [[wish]] this [[power]] as was with [[Jesus]] that knows of the [[God]] and has a following, what would we do coming across that [[person]], who was Christed in such a way, would we not fall back into that same [[pattern]] of human kind ways of saying this is the man who's [[leading]] our [[belief]] |
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| Filip And this is because there are now more humans on the Earth than there were in those times, | | Filip And this is because there are now more humans on the Earth than there were in those times, |
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− | Charlemont Plus the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_Monkey 100th monkey thing]. The [[awareness]] consciousness. Conscience is like [[fashion]], it spreads. | + | Charlemont Plus the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_Monkey 100th monkey thing]. The [[awareness]] consciousness. Conscience is like [[fashion]], it spreads. |
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| Filip We are now becoming aware of our vehicle for our [[soul]] which like a lot of the people down the street and around the corner are not aware of. | | Filip We are now becoming aware of our vehicle for our [[soul]] which like a lot of the people down the street and around the corner are not aware of. |
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− | Selina So if [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] decided to go [[home]] to do what he could he wouldn’t be alone, there would be people in perhaps powerful situations that could help him, in [[Government]] or in some kind of [[services]]? | + | Selina So if [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] decided to go [[home]] to do what he could he wouldn’t be alone, there would be people in perhaps powerful situations that could help him, in [[Government]] or in some kind of [[services]]? |
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| Teacher: I cannot say. It would be unwise for me to do so. And I may add the [[work]] he may [[choose]] to do, is not in a [[manner]] you would [[expect]]. | | Teacher: I cannot say. It would be unwise for me to do so. And I may add the [[work]] he may [[choose]] to do, is not in a [[manner]] you would [[expect]]. |
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− | Charlemont Abraham, when you spoke before of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael], I [[wondered]] whether you were speaking [[collectively]] or the one man who sat at our table? I meant collectively, as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab peoples]. | + | Charlemont Abraham, when you spoke before of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael], I [[wondered]] whether you were speaking [[collectively]] or the one man who sat at our table? I meant collectively, as in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab peoples]. |
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| Teacher: Yes. | | Teacher: Yes. |
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− | "Or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael] we [[personally]] know. | + | "Or the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael] we [[personally]] know. |
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− | Teacher: Both. And beyond. You see, [[Abraham]] is responsible for that which occurs, due to causing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] to be [[sacrificed]], you are [[observing]] the [[effect]]. [[Imagine]] therefore if I had learned my lesson and had not cast aside Ishmael and had taught to live in [[peace]], but it does not do well to hearken back. One must ever look forward. But an example for you to [[consider]] in the [[cause]] and [[effect]] of your [[thoughts]] [[feelings]] and [[actions]]. | + | Teacher: Both. And beyond. You see, [[Abraham]] is responsible for that which occurs, due to causing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] to be [[sacrificed]], you are [[observing]] the [[effect]]. [[Imagine]] therefore if I had learned my lesson and had not cast aside Ishmael and had taught to live in [[peace]], but it does not do well to hearken back. One must ever look forward. But an example for you to [[consider]] in the [[cause]] and [[effect]] of your [[thoughts]] [[feelings]] and [[actions]]. |
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− | "I always felt you put too much on that, casting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] aside, considering the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab race] were [[nomadic]] and you allowed him to be nomadic, and he didn’t die anyway. | + | "I always felt you put too much on that, casting [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] aside, considering the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab race] were [[nomadic]] and you allowed him to be nomadic, and he didn’t die anyway. |
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| Teacher: Ah!, but, you see, Charlemont, it is beyond this mere [[physical]]. | | Teacher: Ah!, but, you see, Charlemont, it is beyond this mere [[physical]]. |