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JarEL: Yes, this [[existence]] is the beginning of eternal life. It is a part thereof but the [[Morontia]] existence is the next [[phase]] that we are not totally [[privileged]] to experience while yet in the flesh. The [[glimpses]] are provided as [[confirmation]] to you.

JarEL: Yes, this [[existence]] is the beginning of eternal life. It is a part thereof but the [[Morontia]] existence is the next [[phase]] that we are not totally [[privileged]] to experience while yet in the flesh. The [[glimpses]] are provided as [[confirmation]] to you.

Donna: Right, and JarEL you used the word seers a while back. I was wondering if you could speak something this idea of seers. The founder of the church for which I belong was also called a seer, Joseph Smith, prophet and seer, who supposedly had some revelations back in 1830 about God and the kingdom of heaven, which was the beginning of the Mormon church and also the RLDS church. Do you have any comments on this?

Hal: Yes, we would appreciate those comments on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith Joseph Smith] and his [[relationship]] to your [[experiences]] here.

JarEL: [[Seers]] have been used throughout [[history]] to keep alive the [[concept]] of oneness of [[the Father]], [[divinity]] of the [[Holy Trinity]]. From time to time the Father has allowed [[visions]] to certain [[mortals]] who were [[attuned]] to receive such and they have recorded these [[visions]], these glimpses into the hereafter. They have recorded in their [[language]] according to their backgrounds and [[education]] so as we have often said, many are impressed with the same [[concepts]] however, their [[interpretation]] thereof varies. Seers as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith Smith], [[Nostradamus]], [[Abraham]], others throughout time have helped to steer [[mankind]] ever toward [[the Father]]. We have in candles lit, to [[illuminate]] the [[path]] that mankind must follow to the evolution and [[evolutionary religion]]. These have been great helpers to us to date, as you note that [[Christianity]] has survived for all these [[generations]] and concept of [[the Father]] the [[oneness]] of Him has not died, particularly in this age that you live.

 

JarEL: Seers have been used throughout history to keep alive the concept of oneness of the Father, divinity of the Holy Trinity. From time to time the Father has allowed visions to certain mortals who were attuned to receive such and they have recorded these visions, these glimpses into the hereafter. They have recorded in their language according to their backgrounds and education so as we have often said, many are impressed with the same concepts however, their interpretation thereof varies. Seers as Smith, Nostradamus, Abraham, others throughout time have helped to steer mankind ever toward the Father. We have in candles lit, to illuminate the path that mankind must follow to the evolution and evolutionary religion. These have been great helpers to us to date, as you note that Christianity has survived for all these generations and concept of the Father the oneness of Him has not died, particularly in this age that you live.

Stella: JarEL, I have a question, this is Stella.

Stella: JarEL, I have a question, this is Stella.

JarEL: Greetings Stella.

JarEL: Greetings Stella.

JarEL: Your [[DNA]] is only one element of your [[beings]]. The [[Life Carriers]] who plan [[life implantation]] on [[planets]] consider thousands of issues. You have been allowed to [[discover]] only a few. Never will you be allowed to discover the [[total]]. The [[information]] of life does not, will not, be held in the hands of [[mankind]]. Dear ones, you forget there is a [[divine]] plan for all [[existence]]. You are in part thereof. Each part must fulfill its [[destiny]]. It must evolve to its fullest [[potential]]. The celestials aid you in reaching your full [[physical]] and [[spiritual]] potential. [[The Master]] did not [[circumvent]] any of the life functions of beings in His [[healing]]. Those celestial who did His bidding went to work instantly to correct the ills of the 853 persons who were healed instantaneously.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=145:3_The_Healing_at_Sundown] [[The Master]]'s [[desire]] became the [[fact]]. Does this clarify for you?

 

JarEL: Your DNA is only one element of your beings. The life carriers who plan life implantation on planets consider thousands of issues. You have been allowed to discover only a few. Never will you be allowed to discover the total. The information of life does not, will not, be held in the hands of mankind. Dear ones, you forget there is a divine plan for all existence. You are in part thereof. Each part must fulfill its destiny. It must evolve to its fullest potential. The celestials aid you in reaching your full physical and spiritual potential. The Master did not

 

circumvent any of the life functions of beings in His healing. Those celestial who did His bidding went to work instantly to correct the ills of the 853 persons who were healed instantaneously. The Master's desire became the fact. Does this clarify for you?

Stella: Yes, I think. So it was actually a spiritual healing rather than....yet it must have a physical too!!

Stella: Yes, I think. So it was actually a [[spiritual]] healing rather than....yet it must have a [[physical]] too!!

Marlies: That was a byproduct. The spiritual healing always came first and the byproduct was the physical.

Marlies: That was a byproduct. The [[spiritual]] healing always came first and the byproduct was the [[physical]].

JarEL: This is so. Even those who had no physical ailments went rejoicing that they indeed were healed.

JarEL: This is so. Even those who had no physical ailments went rejoicing that they indeed were healed.

Stella: Yet many of them really did not believe, but they were healed anyway.

Stella: Yet many of them really did not [[believe]], but they were healed anyway.

JarEL: These were the machinations of the celestial beings. You do not see these things as they take place. Remember the Father loves the just and the unjust. You as members of this family often suffer the consequences of the acts of a few. Also, you receive the benefit of the acts of a few, so it is in this instance that many who we would have judged unworthy receive benefit by their presence.

JarEL: These were the [[machinations]] of the [[celestial]] beings. You do not see these things as they take place. Remember [[the Father]] loves the just and the unjust. You as members of this [[family]] often suffer the [[consequences]] of the [[acts]] of a few. Also, you receive the benefit of the acts of a few, so it is in this instance that many who we would have judged unworthy receive benefit by their [[presence]].

Stella: But did Adam and Eve when they meant to uplift the human race, was that a change in DNA or is the DNA set from the beginning of time and there is no evolutionary change or sudden mutations.....???

Stella: But did [[Adam and Eve]] when they meant to uplift the [[human]] race, was that a change in [[DNA]] or is the DNA set from the beginning of time and there is no [[evolutionary]] change or sudden [[mutations]].....???

JarEL: There are numerous changes on the evolutionary scale. The biological uplifters had they not defiled would have changed the physical beings of mankind. Mankind would have evolved stronger more spiritual beings, able to withstand various diseases that now plague this society. Mankind would have evolved to be better beings likewise in this mission we are making a few better spiritual beings. We have accepted the biological gift that we have chosen to go on an improve upon our spiritual. Correcting our spiritual will have a profound effect upon our physical.

JarEL: There are numerous changes on the evolutionary [[scale]]. The biological uplifters had they not defiled would have changed the [[physical]] beings of [[mankind]]. Mankind would have evolved [[stronger]] more [[spiritual]] [[beings]], able to withstand various [[diseases]] that now [[plague]] this [[society]]. Mankind would have evolved to be better beings likewise in [[this mission]] we are making a few better spiritual beings. We have accepted the biological gift that we have chosen to go on an improve upon our spiritual. Correcting our spiritual will have a [[profound]] effect upon our physical.

Betty: In my quiet time with Landsia, I have been experiencing instructions from her in order to heal some of the pain I had in my shoulders and this was an unexpected benefit of being in communication with her. Is this something that is available to all of us or is this because Landsia is connected with Rayson, assisting him in some way.

Betty: In my [[quiet time]] with Landsia, I have been [[experiencing]] instructions from her in order to heal some of the [[pain]] I had in my shoulders and this was an unexpected benefit of being in [[communication]] with her. Is this something that is available to all of us or is this because Landsia is [[connected]] with [[Rayson]], assisting him in some way.

JarEL: I would venture to say that the results are result of Landsia's close working association with the healer, but for each of you it is available as well. Gifts we desire to improve your stead while you yet are in the mortal flesh.

JarEL: I would venture to say that the results are result of Landsia's close working [[association]] with the [[healer]], but for each of you it is available as well. [[Gifts]] we [[desire]] to improve your stead while you yet are in the [[mortal]] flesh.

Betty: Thank you, I certainly appreciate it.

Betty: Thank you, I certainly [[appreciate]] it.

Hal: May I comment on two interesting statements you made JarEL. One, you said the 853 people who were healed by Jesus on earth, was that the total number of all of His healings while He was here?

Hal: May I comment on two interesting [[statements]] you made JarEL. One, you said the 853 people who were [[healed]] by [[Jesus]] on earth, was that the total number of all of His healings while He was here?

JarEL: No, this was in reference to the great number that were healed at one time. Remember the Master admonished all not to tell of their healing but human nature did not allow secrecy of this, therefore the Master became known as not only the Master Teacher but also as Healer.

JarEL: No, this was in [[reference]] to the great number that were healed at one time.[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=145:3_The_Healing_at_Sundown] Remember [[the Master]] [[admonished]] all not to tell of their healing but [[human]] nature did not allow [[secrecy]] of this, therefore the Master became known as not only the Master Teacher but also as Healer.

Hal: That was in the front of the Peter's house when the masses came that evening.

Hal: That was in the front of the [[Peter, the Apostle|Peter]]'s house when [[the masses]] came that evening.

JarEL: Yes.

JarEL: Yes.

JarEL: Always. [[Fear]] not that [[mankind]] will destroy [[this planet]] through the [[weapons]] they have discovered. Also [[understand]] that changes to be made on your level must originate on your level. We may [[influence]] them and open doors, give [[insight]] to those who are [[dedicated]] to improving the lives of mankind, we will help where ever we can. But, total [[knowledge]] cannot be given. Much has been [[revealed]] through [[the text]], much of the text has been verified by your [[science]] so this should be [[confirmation]] enough.

 

JarEL: Always. Fear not that mankind will destroy this planet through the weapons they have discovered. Also understand that changes to be made on your level must originate on your level. We may influence them and open doors, give insight to those who are dedicated to improving the lives of mankind, we will help where ever we can. But, total knowledge cannot be given. Much has been revealed through the text, much of the text has been verified by your science so this should be confirmation enough.

Hal: Yes, because we wonder about the research being done on so many diseases. It seems to be so slow and take time. They had the cure/prevention for polio, they have developed vaccines and now are working on one for AIDS and cancers. It seems such a slow process to research, I wondered if it mentioned about discoveries that we were allowed to make and whether we are not allowed to some of these at this point.

Hal: Yes, because we [[wonder]] about the [[research]] being done on so many [[diseases]]. It seems to be so slow and take time. They had the cure/prevention for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio polio], they have developed [[vaccines]] and now are working on one for [[AIDS]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancers]. It seems such a slow [[process]] to research, I wondered if it mentioned about discoveries that we were allowed to make and whether we are not allowed to some of these at this point.

JarEL: You ask are you not allowed??

JarEL: You ask are you not allowed??

Hal: Yes, the research men, are they not allowed to make certain discoveries such as in relation to the DNA and many other things???

Hal: Yes, the [[research]] men, are they not allowed to make certain [[discoveries]] such as in relation to the [[DNA]] and many other things???

JarEL: Whatever is the will of the Father and Creator Son will be manifest in your lives. Whether or not these changes or accomplishments will come about this year or in a hundred years is of no matter. The struggle continues the progress goes on, time is of no consequence.

JarEL: Whatever is the will of [[the Father]] and [[Creator Son]] will be [[manifest]] in your lives. Whether or not these [[changes]] or accomplishments will come about this year or in a hundred years is of no matter. The [[struggle]] continues the [[progress]] goes on, [[time]] is of no consequence.

Hal: Other than to the person who has the disease.

Hal: Other than to the person who has the [[disease]].

JarEL: Even so, their rewards are with the Father. This is their path, this is what they must bear in order to proceed into ascension.

JarEL: Even so, their [[rewards]] are with [[the Father]]. This is their [[path]], this is what they must bear in order to proceed into [[ascension]].

Hal: Thank you.

Hal: Thank you.

Lucille: JarEL, this is Lucille and I have a personal question. We seek for the guidance from the Father everyday and in many things and decisions that we make. How do we affect our guidance to another referring to a granddaughter. If she does things that we feel are not right, she makes her own decisions. But, I seek for guidance from the Father, how does she get guidance or how can we influence guidance to someone else? Does it all come from the Father? I mean how can we influence her to guidance??

Hal: In other [[words]].....HELP!!!!.

JarEL: All guidance is from the Father, directly or indirectly. You however must address your needs in [[prayer]] and wait patiently for a [[response]], carry that response that you have been given into [[action]]. Often times it is [[subtle]], again very subtle. You know in your [[hearts]] what is right. The path that this one has [[chosen]], if it is not in [[accordance]] with your wishes and dictates, [[adjust]] accordingly. Often times, you will have to be firm with [[youth]] in order to guide. You are the [[teachers]], you are the controllers.

 

JarEL: All guidance is from the Father, directly or indirectly. You however must address your needs in prayer and wait patiently for a response, carry that response that you have been given into action. Often times it is subtle, again very subtle. You know in your hearts what is right. The path that this one has chosen, if it is not in accordance with your wishes and dictates, adjust accordingly. Often times, you will have to be firm with youth in order to guide. You are the teachers, you are the controllers.

Hal: She doesn't think so. Thank you, that helps, we will . ...

Hal: She doesn't think so. Thank you, that helps, we will . ...

JarEL: . ...... We have asked of you to proceed from love. Your desires for her good are evident. Proceed from the base of love and concern, ask for the mind of Jesus.

JarEL: . ...... We have asked of you to proceed from [[love]]. Your [[desires]] for her [[good]] are evident. Proceed from the base of [[love]] and concern, ask for the [[mind]] of [[Jesus]].

Hal: Yes, certainly will help.

Hal: Yes, certainly will help.

Lucille: Thank you JarEL.

Lucille: Thank you JarEL.

===Closing===

===Closing===

JarEL: All are welcome. In closing, I wish to remind you to read in the text the life of the Master, His interactions with the apostles and others. This will be of tremendous help and encouragement to you in your dealings with one another and your fellows who yet walk in darkness. There is no clear cut path of ease. Each path has its own difficulties. Each must overcome through the aid of the Father and we, your teachers, your path will be easier. This we trust will help you. May peace and blessings of the Father be with you until we are again together. Farewell!!!

JarEL: All are welcome. In closing, I wish to remind you to read in the text the life of the Master, His interactions with the apostles and others. This will be of tremendous help and encouragement to you in your dealings with one another and your fellows who yet walk in darkness. There is no clear cut path of ease. Each path has its own difficulties. Each must overcome through the aid of the Father and we, your teachers, your path will be easier. This we trust will help you. May peace and blessings of the Father be with you until we are again together. Farewell!!!