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Yes, it does. Thank you very much for your [[presence]] among our group.

Yes, it does. Thank you very much for your [[presence]] among our group.

===='''''[[Anger]]'''''====

===='''''[[Anger]]'''''====

Hello, Elyon. I had this [[question]] come into my [[mind]] on my way over here today. Seems like I'm always trying to better [[under]]-stand my fellow [[beings]], and I am [[wondering]] about the [[emotion]] of [[fear]] and the [[reactions]] that it promotes in us. A lot of times when I'm in a [[course]] of [[communication]] with other people, I've noticed that there are a lot of [[reactions]] of [[anger]]. I'm [[wondering]] if this is always fear based or if [[anger]] can have another basis other than [[fear]]? I was [[wondering]] if you could [[clarify]] this for me.

Hello, Elyon. I had this [[question]] come into my [[mind]] on my way over here today. Seems like I'm always trying to better [[understand]] my fellow [[beings]], and I am [[wondering]] about the [[emotion]] of [[fear]] and the [[reactions]] that it promotes in us. A lot of times when I'm in a [[course]] of [[communication]] with other people, I've noticed that there are a lot of [[reactions]] of [[anger]]. I'm [[wondering]] if this is always fear based or if [[anger]] can have another basis other than [[fear]]? I was [[wondering]] if you could [[clarify]] this for me.

Elyon: The [[negative]] [[emotions]] people have- [[anger]], [[hatred]], vengeance, [[jealousy]]- these are always predominantly a result of [[fear]]. Fear is present in levels, though it may not be present outwardly so. [[Anger]] is the result of disapproval, a result of one seeing something that is not right for them. And if what is happening is not right to you, then there is a sense of [[fear]] that someone does not see things as you do. [[Hatred]] is an [[escalation]] of [[anger]] which also makes it based in [[fear]], intolerance of others. [[Vengeance]] is a [[response]] to someone or something that has imposed something [[negative]] upon you. To alleviate your [[fears]], your [[emotions]] of a [[negative]] nature, this does much to [[diffuse]] these [[emotions]] from another. When one [[acts]] in [[anger]], and then they see a calm [[response]] from the [[other]], it is unsettling to them, because they have not seen the [[mirror]] of their own [[actions]]. So by [[tolerating]] others, even those who would [[act]] with [[actions]] that are not pleasing to you, then can they come to see the [[selfishness]] and misuse of their own [[actions]]. You must [[realize]] also, though, that when one is imposing their [[negative]] [[emotions]] upon someone, be it you or someone else, this does not mean that you must stand back and allow them their [[actions]]. So in [[understanding]] you can [[respond]]; but until you [[understand]], the [[danger]] is there that your [[response]] can be a negative one. Does this help?

Elyon: The [[negative]] [[emotions]] people have- [[anger]], [[hatred]], vengeance, [[jealousy]]- these are always predominantly a result of [[fear]]. Fear is present in levels, though it may not be present outwardly so. [[Anger]] is the result of disapproval, a result of one seeing something that is not right for them. And if what is happening is not right to you, then there is a sense of [[fear]] that someone does not see things as you do. [[Hatred]] is an [[escalation]] of [[anger]] which also makes it based in [[fear]], intolerance of others. [[Vengeance]] is a [[response]] to someone or something that has imposed something [[negative]] upon you. To alleviate your [[fears]], your [[emotions]] of a [[negative]] nature, this does much to [[diffuse]] these [[emotions]] from another. When one [[acts]] in [[anger]], and then they see a calm [[response]] from the [[other]], it is unsettling to them, because they have not seen the [[mirror]] of their own [[actions]]. So by [[tolerating]] others, even those who would [[act]] with [[actions]] that are not pleasing to you, then can they come to see the [[selfishness]] and misuse of their own [[actions]]. You must [[realize]] also, though, that when one is imposing their [[negative]] [[emotions]] upon someone, be it you or someone else, this does not mean that you must stand back and allow them their [[actions]]. So in [[understanding]] you can [[respond]]; but until you [[understand]], the [[danger]] is there that your [[response]] can be a negative one. Does this help?

Elyon: Thank you.

Elyon: Thank you.

So, in [[dealing]] with our fellows, when we come across a situation where there are some [[acts]] of [[jealousy]], and a lot of times that is [[exhibited]] with [[vengeful]] [[thoughts]] and [[actions]], and most of the times it's just directed toward somebody's [[character]], or maybe some [[action]] that they are taking that somebody is trying to undermine or something like that; then it's best that we find a way to defuse the situation and maybe to bring the [[individual]] that is [[feeling]] the [[anger]] or [[fear]] to a point of [[enlightenment]] about his own [[actions]] if you can possibly do that?

So, in dealing with our fellows, when we come across a situation where there are some [[acts]] of [[jealousy]], and a lot of times that is [[exhibited]] with [[vengeful]] [[thoughts]] and [[actions]], and most of the times it's just directed toward somebody's [[character]], or maybe some [[action]] that they are taking that somebody is trying to undermine or something like that; then it's best that we find a way to defuse the situation and maybe to bring the [[individual]] that is [[feeling]] the [[anger]] or [[fear]] to a point of [[enlightenment]] about his own [[actions]] if you can possibly do that?

Elyon: Yes. There will always be times that [[anger]] cannot be [[diffused]] in the [[moment]] that it occurs. Do not [[respond]] back with [[anger]], but do [[act]] to let them know their [[thinking]] may be incorrect.

Elyon: Yes. There will always be times that [[anger]] cannot be [[diffused]] in the [[moment]] that it occurs. Do not [[respond]] back with [[anger]], but do [[act]] to let them know their [[thinking]] may be incorrect.

===='''''[[Death]]'''''====

===='''''[[Death]]'''''====

Elyon, I have a question about a [[friend]] of mine who is currently battling a terminal illness and is having a rough go of it. It is pretty obvious that the end of her life is possibly very near. I have been [[wondering]] if there is anything more that an [[individual]] can do to assist someone else's [[transition]] at this [[phase]], or is this [[purely]] a [[personal]] thing that she is going to go through on her own, or is there something that other people can do to help in a situation like this?  

Elyon, I have a question about a [[friend]] of mine who is currently battling a terminal illness and is having a rough go of it. It is pretty obvious that the end of her life is possibly very near. I have been [[wondering]] if there is anything more that an [[individual]] can do to assist someone else's [[transition]] at this [[phase]], or is this [[purely]] a [[personal]] thing that she is going to go through on her own, or is there something that other people can do to help in a situation like this?  

Jan. 17, 1993

Jan. 17, 1993

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

In coming forth to bring [[the Father]]'s will to others, we must constantly be aware of the example you are setting by your actions. While intending love, be careful that you do not unknowingly produce a negative affect. In conversation it is easy to agree with one another. In attempting to find commonness with a friend, beware that you do not commiserate. If one is having a bad day, let them know that they can be having a good day. This course of responding to one's misfortune with a positive outlook creates a tendency for the one who is down to look up. When you come to your fellow beings with the message that you have come to understand, always be aware of the positive outlook. Teaching the positive message that Michael had to give will always be respond-ed to much more positively than to teach about his death. The message of love, of fellowship, brotherhood and to be children of the Father, this is the message he came to give. The religious followings today which hold his ideals should be brought back to the understanding of his message. How, then, do you approach this, you may ask? By coming not in a confrontational mode with those in authority but, instead, by coming with a positive energy, with a knowingness of this message, being able to share this with those both in authority and those who are seeking. Love is the positive force which motivates us to act. In using negative means you can destroy the foundations of love. A positive outlook can never be created with a negative message. So look to bring forth the positive in your life, both in your actions and your words. Be careful of the message you send, that what is intended is what is given. Many people on this world today are seeking for answers more than ever before. The time is ripe for the message to be heard. So take the message and let it spread. Take the dreams which you would accomplish and let them occur. Always be aware that the message you are trying to give is the one that you are giving.  

In coming forth to bring [[the Father]]'s will to others, we must constantly be [[aware]] of the example you are setting by your [[actions]]. While intending [[love]], be careful that you do not unknowingly produce a [[negative]] affect. In [[conversation]] it is easy to [[agree]] with one another. In attempting to find commonness with a [[friend]], beware that you do not commiserate. If one is having a bad day, let them know that they can be having a [[good]] day. This course of [[responding]] to one's misfortune with a [[positive]] outlook creates a tendency for the one who is down to look up. When you come to your fellow beings with the [[message]] that you have come to [[understand]], always be [[aware]] of the [[positive]] outlook. Teaching the positive [[message]] that [[Michael]] had to give will always be respond-ed to much more positively than to teach about his [[death]]. The message of [[love]], of fellowship, brotherhood and to be children of [[the Father]], this is the [[message]] he came to give. The religious followings today which hold his [[ideals]] should be brought back to the [[understanding]] of his [[message]]. How, then, do you approach this, you may ask? By coming not in a confrontational mode with those in [[authority]] but, instead, by coming with a [[positive]] energy, with a knowingness of this message, being able to [[share]] this with those both in authority and those who are seeking. [[Love]] is the positive force which [[motivates]] us to [[act]]. In using [[negative]] means you can destroy the [[foundations]] of [[love]]. A positive outlook can never be created with a [[negative]] message. So look to bring forth the positive in your life, both in your [[actions]] and your [[words]]. Be careful of the message you send, that what is intended is what is given. Many people on this world today are seeking for answers more than ever before. The time is ripe for the [[message]] to be heard. So take the message and let it spread. Take the [[dreams]] which you would accomplish and let them occur. Always be [[aware]] that the message you are trying to give is the one that you are giving.  

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Hello, I am Elyon. It is nice to be here. I would answer a few questions.

Hello, I am Elyon. It is nice to be here. I would answer a few questions.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: [[Routines]], while sometimes seeming to be unimaginative, have much merit if the [[routine]] is of a [[positive]] nature. By bringing yourself in the routine of giving your life to [[the Father]] each day -both your [[good]] times and the bad times- by coming to the [[awareness]] that He is there with you through your day; by [[listening]] for His [[guidance]] in your life, and by taking what you know to be right and bringing that forth in your life amidst the commonplace [[duties]] that you fulfill; by affecting those around you in a [[positive]] light, this would be a routine that would be considered most admirable. In coming to [[creativity]] you must just look for what it is that you would want to do, what the [[message]] is that you would want to send, ways that you can enhance this [[message]]. Then you can strive to accomplish these things. When creating [[ideas]] for [[action]], many have the tendency to not follow through because they see the [[work]] involved. So just take those things you would want to do, [[formulate]] the [[vision]] of how to accomplish them, and then go forth to work to make these [[dreams]] real. Does this help you?

 

Elyon: Routines, while sometimes seeming to be unimaginative, have much merit if the routine is of a positive nature. By bringing yourself in the routine of giving your life to the Father each day -both your good times and the bad times- by coming to the awareness that He is there with you through your day; by listening for His guidance in your life, and by taking what you know to be right and bringing that forth in your life amidst the commonplace duties that you fulfill; by affecting those around you in a positive light, this would be a routine that would be considered most admirable. In coming to creativity you must just look for what it is that you would want to do, what the message is that you would want to send, ways that you can enhance this message. Then you can strive to accomplish these things. When creating ideas for action, many have the tendency to not follow through because they see the work involved. So just take those things you would want to do, formulate the vision of how to accomplish them, and then go forth to work to make these dreams real. Does this help you?

Yes,I will think about what you have said. Sounds good.

Yes,I will think about what you have said. Sounds good.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Hello, Elyon. I have a question. I have always respected the portrayal that Jesus presented to us of turning evil into good. When I come into a situation in my life where I am in disagreement with some person, or believe that their behavior is not appropriate, I have a desire to let them know. I tend to run this tape in my mind of, who am I to say? Maybe I don't have the whole picture. Maybe if I understood them....In going through that process I tend to squelch my own feelings or my own opinion and not express them and feel frustration. I'd like your insights on how to admonish another person or express my feelings of a higher way such that I uphold that principle of the positive and be true to my feelings as well as sensitive to theirs.

Elyon: This is the test. To [[decipher]] the [[difference]] between someone who is doing something wrong and to just be in disagreement with one. Those who are coming, seeking, striving for an increasing [[God consciousness]] in their lives have a pretty good [[understanding]] of the difference between these things. When you are in [[disagreement]] with somebody then you can just produce an opposing [[viewpoint]] in a [[positive]] way without bringing down the other person's view. By uplifting the high point that another person views instead of bringing down the low points. But when you sense that something is wrong, truly wrong, [[evil]], then it must be known for what it is. On these occasions somewhat of an [[admonishment]] is in order. And each circumstance must be looked at carefully to [[decide]] best upon the [[course]] of [[action]]. If you were to see a [[friend]] taking something from a grocery store without paying for it, then the proper course would, of course, be to let him know that what he is doing is wrong. There is not a whole lot that you must do to substantiate your [[argument]], for the person will also know that what he has done is wrong. You are just pointing it out. Does this mean that you must turn him in to [[authorities]]? This must be [[deciphered]] in each person's [[mind]]. If somebody in your [[presence]] were to [[attack]] another either verbally or physically then, again, the [[action]] is known for what it is. By bringing the person to an [[awareness]] of this action, an [[admonishment]] or a restraint cannot be wrong. So, in [[deciding]] when someone is doing something wrong or just in opposition, you can then decide the course of action most appropriate. Does this help you?

Elyon: This is the test. To decipher the difference between someone who is doing something wrong and to just be in disagreement with one. Those who are coming, seeking, striving for an increasing God consciousness in their lives have a pretty good understanding of the difference between these things. When you are in disagreement with somebody then you can just produce an opposing viewpoint in a positive way without bringing down the other person's view. By uplifting the high point that another person views instead of bringing down the low points. But when you sense that something is wrong, truly wrong, evil, then it must be known for what it is. On these occasions somewhat of an admonishment is in order. And each circumstance must be looked at carefully to decide best upon the course of action. If you were to see a friend taking something from a grocery store without paying for it, then the proper course would, of course, be to let him know that what he is doing is wrong. There is not a whole lot that you must do to substantiate your argument, for the person will also know that what he has done is wrong. You are just pointing it out. Does this mean that you must turn him in to authorities? This must be deciphered in each person's mind. If somebody in your presence were to attack another either verbally or physically then, again, the action is known for what it is. By bringing the person to an awareness of this action, an admonishment or a restraint cannot be wrong. So, in deciding when someone is doing something wrong or just in opposition, you can then decide the course of action most appropriate. Does this help you?

Yes, it [[clarifies]] things greatly. Thank you.

Yes, it clarifies things greatly. Thank you.

Elyon, I believe myself to be [[sincerely]] seeking to [[do the will of the Father]] with many [[obstacles]] in my spiritual [[path]]. I wonder if, from your [[perspective]], you could [[illuminate]] for me today the foremost obstacle in my path, the "obstacle of the week" that I might work on.

Elyon: This is difficult, for you are asking me to [[focus]] on your [[negatives]], and my [[purpose]] here is to uplift the positives beyond your negatives. You truly have a [[desire]] to [[do the will of your Father]], and in seeking to do that will, people do not always succeed to the levels that they would deem appropriate. But in attempting to do the will, you are [[progressing]]. I would say to you that when you see what it is that you would like to put forth, then you must strive to make it so. You must give yourself the time to be with y[[our Father]], to [[focus]] on Him. . ..(tape flipped)...you want to happen in your life. Many people find it hard to take the time to be in [[silence]] with [[the Father]] because it is a time of [[vulnerability]]. Take this time. Wash away the [[stress]] and [[anxieties]]. This time is a cleansing time more than any other. Then you can see [[clearly]] what lies ahead in your life and what you would accomplish. Do not [[focus]] on your [[weaknesses]]. By focus-ing on the [[positive]] aspects of your life, then in time those things which you [[perceive]] as weaknesses will [[dissolve]]. Does this help you?

 

Elyon: This is difficult, for you are asking me to focus on your negatives, and my purpose here is to uplift the positives beyond your negatives. You truly have a desire to do the will of your Father, and in seeking to do that will, people do not always succeed to the levels that they would deem appropriate. But in attempting to do the will, you are progressing. I would say to you that when you see what it is that you would like to put forth, then you must strive to make it so. You must give yourself the time to be with your Father, to focus on Him. . ..(tape flipped)...you want to happen in your life. Many people find it hard to take the time to be in silence with the Father because it is a time of vulnerability. Take this time. Wash away the stress and anxieties. This time is a cleansing time more than any other. Then you can see clearly what lies ahead in your life and what you would accomplish. Do not focus on your weaknesses. By focus-ing on the positive aspects of your life, then in time those things which you perceive as weaknesses will dissolve. Does this help you?

Yes, thank you very much.

Yes, thank you very much.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

 

Elyon, I was wondering if there is any advantage or disadvantage to practicing the stillness as a couple or practicing as individuals? Since within a household people do a lot of coordinating of the rest of their lives, would it be an advantage to try to coordinate stillness time as a couple? *E: The stillness, the quiet time, a time of reflection, is a personal time for each individual to be with their Father, to go over what is happening in your life with Him, and, perhaps, to gain some insight or understanding of the future course that you would take. But while it is personal for each individual, there is no reason why you as a couple cannot take the same time to be with your Father. He has the time to hear us all even if we were all to pray to Him at the same time. So, in whatever way that it suits you, then you can decide the best way to come to the Father either together or separately. Does this help you?

Elyon, I was [[wondering]] if there is any [[advantage]] or disadvantage to [[practicing]] the [[stillness]] as a couple or practicing as [[individuals]]? Since within a household people do a lot of [[coordinating]] of the rest of their lives, would it be an advantage to try to coordinate [[stillness]] time as a couple? *E: The stillness, the [[quiet]] time, a time of [[reflection]], is a personal time for each [[individual]] to be with [[their Father]], to go over what is happening in your life with Him, and, perhaps, to gain some [[insight]] or [[understanding]] of the [[future]] course that you would take. But while it is personal for each [[individual]], there is no reason why you as a couple cannot take the same time to be with y[[our Father]]. He has the time to hear us all even if we were all to pray to Him at the same time. So, in whatever way that it suits you, then you can [[decide]] the best way to come to [[the Father]] either together or separately. Does this help you?

Yes, it does. Thank you Elyon.

Yes, it does. Thank you Elyon.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Elyon: Would there be any more questions today? Then I will close by telling each of you that you are all making progress as individuals and as a group in coming to the further awareness of your Father. I would stress that the stillness is very key to bring a personal understanding towards what His will may be for each of you. For each person that may be a different thing or it can be similar, but the only way that it can truly be understood is by an increasing communion with God. So, take the time whenever you can. Find it, if it be at the beginning of your day or at the end. It does not need to be a long period of time. Even if it is only just a few minutes, just take this time to still the craziness, the rush of thoughts; to drown them away, and to focus on the love in your life. He will give it to you.

Elyon: Would there be any more [[questions]] today? Then I will close by telling each of you that you are all making [[progress]] as [[individuals]] and as a group in coming to the further awareness of y[[our Father]]. I would stress that the [[stillness]] is very key to bring a [[personal]] [[understanding]] towards what His will may be for each of you. For each person that may be a [[different]] thing or it can be similar, but the only way that it can truly be [[understood]] is by an increasing [[communion]] with [[God]]. So, take the time whenever you can. Find it, if it be at the beginning of your day or at the end. It does not need to be a long period of time. Even if it is only just a few minutes, just take this time to still the craziness, the rush of [[thoughts]]; to drown them away, and to [[focus]] on the [[love]] in your life. He will give it to you.

In understanding you can go forth and proclaim the positive message of your Father. And when you do go forth, keep in mind those things that you can do to further uplift His message: by being personal with people instead of superficial, by hearing them instead of pretending to hear them, and by not creating a negative impact in trying to bring forth His positive message. The Father loves you with all of His being. Therefore, the purpose that you could try to set forth would be this message to others.

In [[understanding]] you can go forth and [[proclaim]] the positive [[message]] of y[[our Father]]. And when you do go forth, keep in mind those things that you can do to further uplift His [[message]]: by being personal with people instead of [[superficial]], by hearing them instead of pretending to hear them, and by not creating a [[negative]] impact in trying to bring forth His [[positive]] message. [[The Father]] loves you with all of His being. Therefore, the [[purpose]] that you could try to set forth would be this [[message]] to others.

It has been a pleasure to be here. Thank you for coming.

It has been a [[pleasure]] to be here. Thank you for coming.

==Session 3==

==Session 3==

Jan. 20, 93

Jan. 20, 93

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

The development of attitudes is key to further spiritual progression. The views you choose to uphold, both within yourself and externally as viewed by others, are very critical to your growing spiritually. When you come to your Father for guidance and understanding, it is good; no matter what the circumstances may be that bring you. If you are depressed and feeling uncertain about your life and where you are going, He will listen. He will answer. So come. If you are troubled by the attitudes of others, people you have contact with on a daily basis, He will listen. So come. If you are uncertain about your own spiritual growth and about the occurrences which go on in your own life on a day to day basis, you can take them to your Father. He will answer you. If you are having trouble feeling, if you cannot feel the fire or passion, if you are at a lull, then it is good to come to the Father, for He will lift you back up. And if your life is going well, if things both spiritually and materially are happening in a positive light for you, if the goals you seek are working for you, if the progress is felt by you, then it is good to come to the Father with these feelings as well, for you can rejoice together that you are happy.

The [[development]] of [[attitudes]] is key to further [[spiritual progression]]. The views you [[choose]] to uphold, both within yourself and externally as viewed by others, are very critical to your growing spiritually. When you come to y[[our Father]] for [[guidance]] and [[understanding]], it is good; no matter what the circumstances may be that bring you. If you are [[depressed]] and [[feeling]] [[uncertain]] about your life and where you are going, He will [[listen]]. He will answer. So come. If you are troubled by the [[attitudes]] of others, people you have [[contact]] with on a daily basis, He will [[listen]]. So come. If you are uncertain about your own [[spiritual growth]] and about the occurrences which go on in your own life on a day to day basis, you can take them to y[[our Father]]. He will answer you. If you are having trouble [[feeling]], if you cannot feel the fire or [[passion]], if you are at a [[lull]], then it is [[good]] to come to [[the Father]], for He will lift you back up. And if your life is going well, if things both [[spiritually]] and [[materially]] are happening in a [[positive]] light for you, if the [[goals]] you seek are working for you, if the [[progress]] is felt by you, then it is good to come to [[the Father]] with these feelings as well, for you can rejoice together that you are [[happy]].

The message today is that it does not matter the moods you're in from the lows to the highs and anywhere between, for at any time you can take and give yourself over to your Father and He will be there with you. He will listen to you and He will answer you. So when the time is there, take it, and allow your-self the chance to be happy.  

The [[message]] today is that it does not matter the [[moods]] you're in from the lows to the highs and anywhere between, for at any time you can take and give yourself over to y[[our Father]] and He will be there with you. He will [[listen]] to you and He will answer you. So when the time is there, take it, and allow your-self the [[chance]] to be [[happy]].  

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Hello, I am Elyon, your guide. It is good to be here tonight.

Hello, I am Elyon, your guide. It is good to be here tonight.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

I don't have any burning questions. But since we were discussing earlier about this newsletter that Allene in Sarasota is planning, and she would like - she is welcoming - our participation, it seems like we ought to run it past you for your comments. To what extent would you like to have the things that you share with us shared with study groups or individuals across the country? *E: I'd like to thank you for asking me for my input. It is good for you as pupils to recognize that the value of these teachings can be spread to those seeking enlightenment. You do not have to feel as though you must hide anything that I tell you. If there is something meant privately from me, I would let you know that this is so. Now, for yourselves you may decide certain areas are private or not so appropriate for others. But from my vantage point, I would rule nothing out from your decision making. This can be a good thing if it moves in the right direction. Does this help?

Elyon: I'd like to thank you for asking me for my input. It is [[good]] for you as [[pupils]] to [[recognize]] that the [[value]] of these teachings can be spread to those seeking [[enlightenment]]. You do not have to feel as though you must hide anything that I tell you. If there is something meant [[privately]] from me, I would let you know that this is so. Now, for yourselves you may [[decide]] certain areas are [[private]] or not so appropriate for others. But from my [[vantage point]], I would rule nothing out from your [[decision]] making. This can be a good thing if it moves in the right direction. Does this help?

Is there a wrong direction that it could potentially move towards that you would want to warn us about?

Is there a wrong [[direction]] that it could potentially move towards that you would want to [[warn]] us about?

Elyon: Nothing in particular except that there could be a tend-ency over time for the enhancement of messages to become "stars" as they say. With anything that is going to be published and spread on a large scale, then some may see the opportunity and attempt to manipulate it. This should not be taken as though it is actually going to occur. It is just a precautionary statement. Does this clarify?

Elyon: Nothing in particular except that there could be a tendency over time for the enhancement of [[messages]] to become "stars" as they say. With anything that is going to be published and spread on a large scale, then some may see the [[opportunity]] and attempt to [[manipulate]] it. This should not be taken as though it is actually going to occur. It is just a precautionary [[statement]]. Does this [[clarify]]?

Yes, thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon, I was wondering about our discussions of a non-profit organization such that we could mobilize ourselves to better serve. I wondered what your thoughts would be in that regard. Is this something we should think about as linked to the teaching mission? Or should we regard it as a function we under-take that is an outgrowth of our relationship with you but not necessarily representative of the mission? I'd appreciate your insights.

Elyon, I was [[wondering]] about our [[discussions]] of a [[non-profit organization]] such that we could mobilize ourselves to better serve. I [[wondered]] what your [[thoughts]] would be in that regard. Is this something we should think about as linked to the [[Teaching Mission]]? Or should we regard it as a [[function]] we under-take that is an outgrowth of our [[relationship]] with you but not necessarily [[representative]] of [[the mission]]? I'd appreciate your [[insights]].

Elyon: This idea for this organization has the potential for many positive results. To link it directly with just this mission would be to limit it, though it may be a start. With any idea that you as a group, or individuals, or with other groups, have, there are many things that can be accomplished. The questions that should be put forth are: What are the motives for doing these things? Are they based in love and service and upliftment of the message both from us or from the Father? And what are the possibilities that these can be accomplished? If these answers are favorable, then I would say to follow your leadings. Does this answer you?

Elyon: This [[idea]] for this [[organization]] has the [[potential]] for many positive results. To link it directly with just this mission would be to [[limit]] it, though it may be a start. With any [[idea]] that you as a [[group]], or [[individuals]], or with other groups, have, there are many things that can be accomplished. The questions that should be put forth are: What are the [[motives]] for doing these things? Are they based in [[love]] and [[service]] and upliftment of the [[message]] both from us or from [[the Father]]? And what are the [[possibilities]] that these can be accomplished? If these answers are favorable, then I would say to follow your leadings. Does this answer you?

Yes, it does. I would be excited to undertake such an adventure.

Yes, it does. I would be [[excited]] to undertake such an [[adventure]].

Elyon: Would there be anything else this evening?

Elyon: Would there be anything else this evening?

Elyon: The questions you ask are insightful. Many questions you have asked have caused me to be very thoughtful in their return. And this is good because then my job is not so easy. And it means you are seeking higher things. Things that trouble you in your lives that you have not been able to come to a [[conclusion]] about, these can be offered. Questions of [[curiosity]] in a [[limited]] sense can be answered to some extent. Questions about [[understanding]] and [[relationships]]. But the overriding [[attitudes]] and the underlying basis for your inquisitiveness should always be given with the question: how can I best serve my Father? in [[mind]]. I bring you a spiritual approach to the [[problems]] you face and deal with in your lives. So as long as your [[focus]] is on your [[spiritual progression]] and it is within my area to where I can [[respond]], then I will answer to the best of my ability to bring you to the furthest [[understanding]] that I can. Does this help?

 

Elyon: The questions you ask are insightful. Many questions you have asked have caused me to be very thoughtful in their return. And this is good because then my job is not so easy. And it means you are seeking higher things. Things that trouble you in your lives that you have not been able to come to a conclusion about, these can be offered. Questions of curiosity in a limited sense can be answered to some extent. Questions about understanding and relationships. But the overriding attitudes and the underlying basis for your inquisitiveness should always be given with the question: how can I best serve my Father? in mind. I bring you a spiritual approach to the problems you face and deal with in your lives. So as long as your focus is on your spiritual progression and it is within my area to where I can respond, then I will answer to the best of my ability to bring you to the furthest understanding that I can. Does this help?

Yes, thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

I have another question. I am involved on a computer network bulletin board with other readers. At times I've felt like; here's an opportunity for ministry. As always, I'm reminded through bulletins posted how much ministry comes back my way. In posting notes at times I've sought to be as inspirational as I could and I've had you cross my mind. I'd like to invite you to partake in the board, to be there with me. I'd like to express my permission to have you work with me. I detect on the board there are other readers there who are aware of this mission. Yet we're all very respectful of other readers who may not be aware or not care to be involved in the mission. Is it ok with you to work with me in this regard?

I have another question. I am involved on a [[computer]] network bulletin board with other [[readers]]. At times I've felt like; here's an [[opportunity]] for ministry. As always, I'm reminded through bulletins posted how much [[ministry]] comes back my way. In posting notes at times I've sought to be as [[inspirational]] as I could and I've had you cross my mind. I'd like to invite you to partake in the board, to be there with me. I'd like to [[express]] my [[permission]] to have you work with me. I detect on the board there are other [[readers]] there who are aware of [[this mission]]. Yet we're all very [[respectful]] of other [[readers]] who may not be aware or not care to be involved in [[the mission]]. Is it ok with you to work with me in this regard?

Elyon: Yes, I would attempt to work with you in this regard.

Elyon: Yes, I would attempt to work with you in this regard.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Elyon: You are welcome. And know that this communication has many positive outreaches to people that otherwise would not have a means of communicating with you. The result of this networking is the ground for efficient ministry. Not to preach of course, but to develop on-going communications with other seekers. I would be glad to help.

Elyon: You are welcome. And know that this [[communication]] has many [[positive]] outreaches to people that otherwise would not have a means of communicating with you. The result of this networking is the ground for [[efficient]] [[ministry]]. Not to [[preach]] of course, but to develop on-going [[communications]] with other seekers. I would be glad to help.

I'm excited and looking forward to it.

I'm [[excited]] and looking forward to it.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Elyon: I would let you go tonight with the idea that each of you is special in your own right. You each have personality traits that are built into you that drive you forward in positive ways. Don't mistake this to mean that you are better than others, but do take a little security in knowing that the paths you are taking are most conducive to your progression and understanding, and to your helping to make those around you more understanding of the Father's ways. It is important that you realize, each of you, both present and not, that the Father is there for you at any time that you turn to Him. He will listen to you. He will love you and He will answer you. The answers may not be what you were looking for, but you will be answered. So take this week to work on strengthening your connections both with your Father and with those around you, for they also have the Father within them. Work on trying to see this in them. It brings you closer to tolerance and love when you can see that the same Father that you have resides in them as well. Take heart in the message of love. I bid you farewell. – –

Elyon: I would let you go tonight with the [[idea]] that each of you is special in your own right. You each have [[personality]] [[traits]] that are built into you that drive you forward in [[positive]] ways. Don't mistake this to mean that you are better than others, but do take a little [[security]] in knowing that the paths you are taking are most conducive to your progression and [[understanding]], and to your helping to make those around you more [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]'s ways. It is important that you [[realize]], each of you, both present and not, that [[the Father]] is there for you at any time that you turn to Him. He will [[listen]] to you. He will [[love]] you and He will answer you. The answers may not be what you were looking for, but you will be answered. So take this week to work on [[strengthening]] your [[connections]] both with y[[our Father]] and with those around you, for they also have the Father within them. Work on trying to see this in them. It brings you closer to [[tolerance]] and [[love]] when you can see that the same Father that you have resides in them as well. Take [[heart]] in the [[message]] of [[love]]. I bid you farewell. – –

 

==Session 4==

==Session 4==

Jan. 31, 93

Jan. 31, 93

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

There is a purpose that brings us here to guide you. This purpose is to bring you to understanding and deepen meanings in your life. There is a reason that we do this in two ways. First is to present what you would call a lesson in understanding, so that, perhaps, this can bring you some enlightenment on a newer level or to enhance the meanings and values that you have gotten in your life. The second way in which we come to you is to allow you to inquire about personal problems or confusion so that perhaps we may offer some enlightenment in this regard as well. Do not fear to ask questions for they are welcome. You cannot ask too many, although time requirements sometimes limit. If you ever have questions on the lessons or any follow-ups that would further help you to clarify, then feel free; for the reason I am here is simple. I am here to develop an understanding relation-ship with you as regards to your quest for the Father. As He helps to facilitate my contact with you, I can only hope that I can facilitate your contact with Him. And this can only come through understanding. Your questions cannot be improper. Your inquisitiveness is admired. And an understanding friendship is what I seek.  

There is a [[purpose]] that brings us here to [[guide]] you. This purpose is to bring you to [[understanding]] and deepen [[meanings]] in your life. There is a reason that we do this in two ways. First is to present what you would call a lesson in [[understanding]], so that, perhaps, this can bring you some [[enlightenment]] on a newer level or to enhance the [[meanings]] and [[values]] that you have gotten in your life. The second way in which we come to you is to allow you to [[inquire]] about personal [[problems]] or [[confusion]] so that perhaps we may offer some [[enlightenment]] in this regard as well. Do not [[fear]] to ask questions for they are welcome. You cannot ask too many, although time requirements sometimes [[limit]]. If you ever have [[questions]] on the lessons or any follow-ups that would further help you to [[clarify]], then feel [[free]]; for the reason I am here is [[simple]]. I am here to develop an understanding [[relationship]] with you as regards to your quest for [[the Father]]. As He helps to [[facilitate]] my contact with you, I can only [[hope]] that I can facilitate your contact with Him. And this can only come through [[understanding]]. Your questions cannot be improper. Your inquisitiveness is admired. And an understanding [[friendship]] is what I seek.  

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Hello, I am Elyon, your guide to understanding. And I would accept a few questions. Please try to limit them to simple answers today. (The TR had a cold and a raspy voice.)

Hello, I am Elyon, your guide to [[understanding]]. And I would [[accept]] a few [[questions]]. Please try to [[limit]] them to [[simple]] answers today. (The [[TR]] had a cold and a raspy [[voice]].)

Thanks for being back again with us, Elyon.

Thanks for being back again with us, Elyon.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: To [[clarify]], first you must [[understand]] that this was not in regards to any one person, or necessarily to you here. As a [[cautionary]] [[statement]], this was made to point out the ways that one could take what they see as a [[positive]] thing, for [[example]] the search for [[the Father]]'s will, and then in trying to bring others to [[understanding]], could possibly alienate them or set (them) back. As an example, I would take a [[preacher]] who has a clear concept of [[God]] and understands for himself what his [[relationship]] is, yet in presenting these concepts to others, he would talk about punishment or bad things happening if they weren't to see things the way that he did. While obviously this [[preacher]] wants people to [[understand]] what he understands, but his [[attitudes]] that he took did such as to [[scare]] people away, making it thus impossible for them to see things as he did. This is the [[focus]] on a [[negative]] [[message]] to create a [[positive]] result, which cannot hap-pen. The second way you can create a [[negative]] impact is to speak differently with [[actions]] than with [[words]], to talk about things in one [[light]] and to live a different way. It is important as [[believers]] in Christ and [[the Father]] to [[understand]] that the way you live is just as important as the [[message]] you attempt to spread with your [[words]]. Does this [[clarify]] for you?

 

Elyon: To clarify, first you must understand that this was not in regards to any one person, or necessarily to you here. As a cautionary statement, this was made to point out the ways that one could take what they see as a positive thing, for example the search for the Father's will, and then in trying to bring others to understanding, could possibly alienate them or set (them) back. As an example, I would take a preacher who has a clear concept of God and understands for himself what his relationship is, yet in presenting these concepts to others, he would talk about punishment or bad things happening if they weren't to see things the way that he did. While obviously this preacher wants people to understand what he understands, but his attitudes that he took did such as to scare people away, making it thus impossible for them to see things as he did. This is the focus on a negative message to create a positive result, which cannot hap-pen. The second way you can create a negative impact is to speak differently with actions than with words, to talk about things in one light and to live a different way. It is important as believers in Christ and the Father to understand that the way you live is just as important as the message you attempt to spread with your words. Does this clarify for you?

Yes, thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon, I would just like to take this opportunity to express my heart-felt gratitude to you specifically and to all those involved in the teaching mission for your time and your energy involved in coming to groups like this one and the significant impact that I think it has. I personally feel very privileged to be among those to hear your messages and your lessons. I just wanted to express that appreciation and thanks. I'm sure everyone in the group feels that we all appreciate your time and your effort in helping us in our struggle towards the Father. Thank you very much.

Elyon, I would just like to take this [[opportunity]] to [[express]] my [[heart]]-felt [[gratitude]] to you specifically and to all those involved in the [[Teaching Mission]] for your time and your [[energy]] involved in coming to groups like this one and the significant [[impact]] that I [[think]] it has. I personally feel very [[privileged]] to be among those to hear your [[messages]] and your lessons. I just wanted to express that [[appreciation]] and thanks. I'm sure everyone in the [[group]] feels that we all appreciate your time and your [[effort]] in helping us in our [[struggle]] towards [[the Father]]. Thank you very much.

Elyon: And thank you for taking the time to articulate your feelings toward me. I try in every way possible to bring under-standing and only hope that what I attempt to bring forth does strike a chord within your lives. You are welcome.

Elyon: And thank you for taking the time to [[articulate]] your [[feelings]] toward me. I try in every way possible to bring under-standing and only [[hope]] that what I attempt to bring forth does strike a chord within your lives. You are welcome.

Would there be one more today?

Would there be one more today?

Elyon: It is easy in life for people to get caught up in the [[material]] [[things]] and their [[focus]] to be shifted away from the [[spiritual]] because in [[spirituality]] we must focus on something that isn't necessarily seen, requiring some [[faith]]. But materially things can be [[secured]] and some [[achievement]] can be seen. It is important in dealing with people whose [[focus]] is on [[material]] gain and self to try to offer them a more spiritual [[perspective]], not necessarily from [[words]] alone but in making a [[gesture]] towards [[friendship]]. This may cause them to step back and to [[reevaluate]] where they are going. It is very important in your life to be as real as you can be with people. To some it is unsettling but in this world of fast-[[paced]] lives and with all the [[distractions]] and the [[different]] [[things]] that can get you caught up in this [[attitude]] of realness can be refreshing to a [[person]]'s spirit and it may help them to take themselves in a new [[direction]]. Does this answer you?

 

Elyon: It is easy in life for people to get caught up in the material things and their focus to be shifted away from the spiritual because in spirituality we must focus on something that isn't necessarily seen, requiring some faith. But materially things can be secured and some achievement can be seen. It is important in dealing with people whose focus is on material gain and self to try to offer them a more spiritual perspective, not necessarily from words alone but in making a gesture towards friendship. This may cause them to step back and to reevaluate where they are going. It is very important in your life to be as real as you can be with people. To some it is unsettling but in this world of fast-paced lives and with all the distractions and the different things that can get you caught up in this attitude of realness can be refreshing to a person's spirit and it may help them to take themselves in a new direction. Does this answer you?

Yes, it does. Thank you.

Yes, it does. Thank you.

Elyon: You are welcome.

Elyon: You are welcome.

===Closing===

===Closing===

I would close today by saying that you are in progression. Maybe sometimes you feel that you aren't progressing or under-standing as much as you would like to. Sometimes it can be frustrating. But in your constant attempt to be straight-forward with others as well as with yourself, and in constantly seeking to further understand the Father's will and His ways, then there is a steady progression, however undetectable it may seem at times. As a whole, the time you are taking to spend with your Father in communion is being achieved at higher and higher levels. Continue to work towards understanding and to give yourselves the time. This is my message today. Thank you. Group: Thank you.

I would close today by saying that you are in [[progression]]. Maybe sometimes you [[feel]] that you aren't progressing or [[understanding]] as much as you would like to. Sometimes it can be [[frustrating]]. But in your [[constant]] attempt to be straight-forward with others as well as with yourself, and in constantly seeking to further [[understand]] [[the Father]]'s will and His ways, then there is a steady [[progression]], however undetectable it may seem at times. As a whole, the time you are taking to spend with your Father in communion is being achieved at higher and higher levels. Continue to [[work]] towards [[understanding]] and to give yourselves the [[time]]. This is my [[message]] today. Thank you.  

 

Group: Thank you.

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