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2011-10-14-Conversations with Monjoronson 30 (view source)
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MONJORONSON: Yes, this is a carryover of those practices and those presences, just as there continues to be those who still hail and respect and adore those miscreants such as Hitler and Stalin. There are individuals on your world who still hold Satan and Lucifer and his kind in high regard. This is total mischief and is no longer supported or encouraged or allowed to occur, except where individuals resist our influences.
MONJORONSON: Yes, this is a carryover of those practices and those presences, just as there continues to be those who still hail and respect and adore those miscreants such as Hitler and Stalin. There are individuals on your world who still hold Satan and Lucifer and his kind in high regard. This is total mischief and is no longer supported or encouraged or allowed to occur, except where individuals resist our influences.
===='''''[[Reflectivity]]''''', '''''[[Fallibility]]'''''====
*Reflectivity
MMc: How is it that Urantia mortals are now able to utilize the phenomenon of reflectivity?
MONJORONSON: Reflectivity is another TR process, [of] transmitting/receiving. There is a great deal of ideation that goes on in the mind of the mortal who acts as the receiver/transmitter. This has been called ‘reflectivity’; it is not truly reflectivity as we use it, or those in the morontial realm use it. We do not speak or work against the use of “reflectivity” as it assists individuals in having a much more palpable contact with the spiritual realm of light in the universe. If they want to call it ‘reflectivity’, they are most welcome to, though it does not exist for mortals as it exists for us, even those of the low morontial levels. We do not dispute this, and so we let it be. It does not connote any advantage or a special status for those who say they are ‘reflectivators.’ It is simply something that someone has called themselves. You can stand in the garden and call yourself a ‘rose,’ if you wanted to, and we would not dispute it.
MMc: I understand. I have some follow-up questions I think that… is reflectivity something that can only be used by those who are specially trained? In essence, is what you are telling me is reflectivity and TRing are the same thing?
MONJORONSON: Yes, as far as mortals are concerned, they are the same thing. The closest I can give you of an analogy of reflectivity is a holographic image, or a holographic dimensional space, that has all the elements of your reality in it, represented. In many ways it would remind you of being in the Star Trek Holodeck, where you are able to experience things that are not there physically, but there energetically, and are represented by images in your mind. For the reflectivator process, it is as though you were standing in front of a doorway to a large auditorium and you see that space in front of you. That auditorium can be as large as the largest auditorium you can think of, or it simply could be a small closet of space, wherever you need it to ‘see.’ You would be ‘not there’ in real time, but you would be observing in real time the actions that were occurring. In the reflectivator process, you can also dial back historically to events in the past, and events in the future. Events in the future are not so useful, as they are only probabilities of what will occur, and depend upon the decisions of those who affect the future outcomes.
MMc: Thank you very much. We were told that the reflectivators and reflectivity was a ‘perfect process,’ but it hasn’t proved to be that. Is this process as we know it, as failsafe as was originally expected?
MONJORONSON: No, the reflectivator process, as the mortals who say they engage it, is an ideal situation that they had hoped to achieve. It is in many ways wishing that you were a ‘rock star,’ who was very famous and popular and millions of people were in adulation for you and what you had achieved. Desired for outcomes have not been forthcoming; that is proof in itself that this is not a true reflectivator process that they are using.
MMc: Are there any circumstances under which the privilege or ability can be revoked?
MONJORONSON: The reflectivator process is one in which is granted to individuals—and when I say ‘individuals,’ this does not necessarily mean mortals. It could be the whole spectrum of beings who have access to that. The reflectivator process is very evolved; it is granted on a need to know basis, and is a privileged access, which is granted only to a few. The reflectivator process can cause tremendous confusion and difficulty, even when it is used appropriately by those individuals who are above the level of mortals. There is still much confusion in the minds of individuals, even to the point of their fusion, and having gone through all of the mansion educational worlds in Nebadon. You would be amazed at how people’s desires, their thoughts, their yearnings, can express themselves in these ways. All that exists, that you observe in the world, is affected by mind, and your mind is guided and upheld in what it sees, by your values, your desires, your fears, and your ego. Therefore, this reflectivator process is one which is usually reserved only for those who are created beings and who are near perfect.
*The Master Spirits
MMc: Very good. Thank you. Are the Master Spirits speaking to humans on Urantia?
MONJORONSON: Yes, of course, to those who are prepared to receive this guidance.
MMc: Can you tell me which Master Spirits are speaking, please?
MONJORONSON: No. I will refrain from answering this question.
MMc: Is there another question that I might ask, so that I might get more information?
MONJORONSON: Perhaps so. You are ingenious; you just need to be benevolently devious.
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*What is the ‘grid?
*What is the ‘grid?