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==Session==
 
==Session==
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
Rantarason (Jonathan TR): I have a topic to present to you this day; it has to do with patience and its application.
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===='''''[[Patience]]''''', '''''[[Growth]]'''''====
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Rantarason (Jonathan TR): I have a [[topic]] to present to you this day; it has to do with [[patience]] and its application.
  
Over the course of the development of civilization on your world your rulers have made errors which disrupted the evolutionary process. This has retarded growth on Urantia. The very intention to circumvent the mandates of revelatory procedure and accelerate progress on this world resulted in its exact opposite, retarded growth. All of us today engaged in this mission of uplift are likewise constrained to the orders of our supervisors regarding what we may present and what must wait for your growth in order to accommodate. So, we have all made the pledge of patience. However, this patience is not passive; it is active. It is a patience which seeks to accomplish the goal, which considers the time-connected difficulties. It is a patience that keenly observes the difficulty and aggressively applies remedies.
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Over the [[course]] of the [[development]] of [[civilization]] on your world your rulers have made [[errors]] which disrupted the [[evolutionary]] [[process]]. This has [[retarded]] [[growth]] on [[Urantia]]. The very [[intention]] to circumvent the [[mandates]] of [[revelatory]] procedure and [[accelerate]] [[progress]] on this world resulted in its exact opposite, retarded [[growth]]. All of us today engaged in [[this mission]] of uplift are likewise constrained to the orders of our supervisors regarding what we may present and what must wait for your [[growth]] in order to [[accommodate]]. So, we have all made the [[pledge]] of [[patience]]. However, this patience is not [[passive]]; it is active. It is a patience which seeks to accomplish the [[goal]], which considers the time-connected [[difficulties]]. It is a patience that keenly [[observes]] the difficulty and aggressively applies remedies.
  
Working as you do, conscious of your value to the spiritual efforts being wrought upon this world for the betterment of all mankind, you are ever enhanced; you are self-enthused. This enthusiasm has brought you much personal growth in light of your goals to help this world. This desire to be of service has hastened your own growth. You are not impatient to be continually striving for a better world or a better being that you are. Evolutionary creatures are not required to adhere to revelatory mandates. You are encouraged to become perfect as the Father in heaven is perfect. This can be approached with diligence and direct action, certainly not with complacency. The patience you apply toward yourself and your projects and your endeavors at growth should always be active. It is when you are engaged in help toward another for their betterment that patience can and may appropriately contain passivity, for you have gone beyond your freewill arena and must acknowledge the right of our Father's other child to decide when a lesson is for them to adopt.
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Working as you do, [[conscious]] of your [[value]] to the spiritual [[efforts]] being wrought upon [[this world]] for the betterment of all [[mankind]], you are ever enhanced; you are self-enthused. This [[enthusiasm]] has brought you much [[personal growth]] in [[light]] of your goals to help this world. This [[desire]] to be of [[service]] has hastened your own [[growth]]. You are not impatient to be continually striving for a better world or a better being that you are. [[Evolutionary]] creatures are not required to adhere to [[revelatory]] [[mandates]]. You are [[encouraged]] to [[become]] perfect as [[the Father]] in heaven is perfect. This can be approached with [[diligence]] and direct action, certainly not with [[complacency]]. The patience you apply toward yourself and your projects and your endeavors at [[growth]] should always be [[active]]. It is when you are engaged in help toward another for their betterment that [[patience]] can and may appropriately contain [[passivity]], for you have gone beyond your [[freewill]] arena and must acknowledge the right of our Father's other child to [[decide]] when a lesson is for them to adopt.
  
So, you will help each of us who is in the role of bringing new light to this world if you remain busy about the Father's business. Then we are able to proceed. Our patience must apply to the rate that you proceed. If you are willing to receive more, we are cleared to present more. If you find yourselves satiated and need to reflect upon prior reception, we are able to wait ages.
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So, you will help each of us who is in the [[role]] of bringing new [[light]] to [[this world]] if you remain [[busy]] about [[the Father]]'s business. Then we are able to [[proceed]]. Our [[patience]] must apply to the rate that you proceed. If you are willing to receive more, we are cleared to present more. If you find yourselves [[satiated]] and need to [[reflect]] upon prior [[reception]], we are able to wait ages.
  
 
I am Rantarason, and I have finished today.
 
I am Rantarason, and I have finished today.
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
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===='''''[[Agondonter]]'''''====
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Evelyn: The question of [[agondonter]] status came up at our Wednesday group. I [[understand]] it as something [[inevitable]]; we are agondonters because we live here. The other view is that it is achieved through having [[faith]] in the face of [[rebellion]]. Could you [[clarify]] that?
  
Evelyn: The question of agondonter status came up at our Wednesday group. I understand it as something inevitable; we are agondonters because we live here. The other view is that it is achieved through having faith in the face of rebellion. Could you clarify that?
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Rantarason: I would [[express]] it as a [[parallel]] pattern to my words on [[patience]]. All on [[this world]] have the [[potential]] to be agondonters if they apply their [[faith]]. Once faith is active, agondonter status is a [[reality]]. Not one of you will fail to [[achieve]] this status when you engage your will power in the [[effort]] to [[attain]] [[the Father]]. [[Ignorance]] does not provide the status. [[Conscious]] awareness of lack in your world and life of the [[spiritual]] [[values]] you [[hunger]] for does [[initiate]] the full label.
  
Rantarason: I would express it as a parallel pattern to my words on patience. All on this world have the potential to be agondonters if they apply their faith. Once faith is active, agondonter status is a reality. Not one of you will fail to achieve this status when you engage your will power in the effort to attain the Father. Ignorance does not provide the status. Conscious awareness of lack in your world and life of the spiritual values you hunger for does initiate the full label.
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On a world of [[normal]] [[circuitry]] and planetary procedures, such a status is not even a [[potential]], in a global way. However, any [[individual]] who finds himself [[isolated]] and endeavoring to [[enlighten]] one's understanding will embark upon the [[agondonter]] [[adventure]]. So, here on this world all of you are at the doorstep of this status. On a normal world few and rarely do any [[attain]] this status.
  
On a world of normal circuitry and planetary procedures, such a status is not even a potential, in a global way. However, any individual who finds himself isolated and endeavoring to enlighten one's understanding will embark upon the agondonter adventure. So, here on this world all of you are at the doorstep of this status. On a normal world few and rarely do any attain this status.
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Does this [[clarify]]?
  
Does this clarify?
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Evelyn: If someone comes from this or another [[rebel planet]] and doesn't activate their [[faith]] during this life, but then on the [[mansion worlds]] does [[proceed]] with [[faith]] and reach for God, would they still qualify for [[agondonter]] status?
  
Evelyn: If someone comes from this or another rebel planet and doesn't activate their faith during this life, but then on the mansion worlds does proceed with faith and reach for God, would they still qualify for agondonter status?
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Rantarason: Much of this applies to the [[psychic circle]] [[attainment]] of the individual, for often creatures of [[isolated worlds]] bring much that is lacking in their [[growth]] into the [[morontia]] experience, and the potentials of [[agondonter]] qualities are activated. But, some individuals have simply approached life without any [[consideration]] and now face the [[morontia worlds]] as if they were born on a world in [[light and life]]. They are starting so new and so fresh to their career that there are no [[qualities]] that apply to being an agondonter.
 
 
Rantarason: Much of this applies to the psychic circle attainment of the individual, for often creatures of isolated worlds bring much that is lacking in their growth into the morontia experience, and the potentials of agondonter qualities are activated. But, some individuals have simply approached life without any consideration and now face the morontia worlds as if they were born on a world in light and life. They are starting so new and so fresh to their career that there are no qualities that apply to being an agondonter.
 
  
 
Does this help?
 
Does this help?
  
Evelyn: Sounds like it isn't a simple yes or no situation but depends on individual circumstance.
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Evelyn: Sounds like it isn't a [[simple]] yes or no situation but depends on [[individual]] circumstance.
  
Rantarason: One of the talents of an agondonter is the ability to function without the guidance of superiors, to pursue truth on one's own initiative. If these traits are exhibited on an evolutionary world in isolation, then you have that status. If you are resurrected without ever applying yourself this way, you have not set the conditions for being able to function in agondonter roles in the future.
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Rantarason: One of the [[talents]] of an [[agondonter]] is the ability to function without the [[guidance]] of superiors, to pursue [[truth]] on one's own [[initiative]]. If these traits are exhibited on an [[evolutionary world]] in [[isolation]], then you have that status. If you are [[resurrected]] without ever applying yourself this way, you have not set the conditions for being able to [[function]] in agondonter roles in the [[future]].
  
On the heels of my presentation to you today, I must restate that you who value this agondonter quality must be active. Do not let the cherished status of agondonter class lull you into thinking that preventing celestial contact is improving your standing. To simply be without the guidance of your superior ascending creatures does not immediately qualify you. What qualifies you is your intended application to live truth in spite of its apparent absence.
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On the heels of my presentation to you today, I must restate that you who [[value]] this [[agondonter]] quality must be [[active]]. Do not let the cherished status of agondonter class lull you into [[thinking]] that preventing [[celestial contact]] is improving your standing. To simply be without the guidance of your superior ascending creatures does not immediately qualify you. What qualifies you is your intended application to live [[truth]] in spite of its apparent absence.
  
 
I hope this has been helpful.
 
I hope this has been helpful.
  
Evelyn: It's amusing when people express that fear of losing their status. It reminds me of someone not wanting to leave prison because they will lose their benefits. Thank you and I appreciate the lesson on active patience.
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Evelyn: It's amusing when people [[express]] that [[fear]] of losing their [[status]]. It reminds me of someone not wanting to leave [[prison]] because they will lose their benefits. Thank you and I [[appreciate]] the lesson on active [[patience]].
 
 
Elyon (Mark): Greetings, my friends. This is your friend and associate, Elyon. I always welcome the opportunity and view it as a privilege and a pleasure to come among you, my eager and earnest students. I would address you today on a shift in emphasis that you are becoming increasingly aware of.
 
 
 
As has been stated previously, you all here today are, and have been, members of the melchizedek training schools. This has been accepted by you for some time as a statement of fact. I would offer you more complete understanding of the conditions of this role in which you find yourselves engaged. As you may have deduced by this point, your melchizedek friends and brothers are in a very real sense your immediate custodians, in that they are most similar to you in your makeup, in your dwelling place, in that they inhabit the same space that you do. They are intimately familiar with your history and have equal familiarity with your destinies. It is their purpose in the scheme of the divine plan for them to monitor and oversee, initiate and coordinate your learning experiences, and they remain with you constantly and are aware of your fluctuating capacities to assimilate their teachings. We, the other teachers including myself, accept assignment from these melchizedeks and then are given some degree of latitude in how our assignment is manifested.
 
  
Every being in the stream of progression has an order and a proper place within this plan to function in the most potent arena of their expertise. The melchizedeks, in turn, take their mandates and directives from their superiors, from Michael, from the Mother Spirit, from Gabriel and those above them in standing. We all realize our position in the affairs of the unfoldment of your world and function quite interdependently in that we each seek to expand and increase understanding on your parts on a variety of different techniques and approaches.
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Elyon (Mark): Greetings, my friends. This is your [[friend]] and associate, Elyon. I always welcome the [[opportunity]] and view it as a [[privilege]] and a [[pleasure]] to come among you, my [[eager]] and [[earnest]] [[students]]. I would address you today on a shift in emphasis that you are becoming increasingly aware of.
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===='''''[[Melchizedek Schools]]'''''====
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As has been stated previously, you all here today are, and have been, members of the [[Melchizedek training schools]]. This has been [[accepted]] by you for some time as a [[statement]] of [[fact]]. I would offer you more complete [[understanding]] of the conditions of this role in which you find yourselves [[engaged]]. As you may have [[deduced]] by this point, your [[Melchizedeks|Melchizedek]] friends and brothers are in a very real sense your immediate custodians, in that they are most similar to you in your makeup, in your dwelling place, in that they inhabit the same [[space]] that you do. They are [[intimately]] familiar with your [[history]] and have equal familiarity with your [[destinies]]. It is their [[purpose]] in the scheme of the [[divine]] plan for them to monitor and oversee, [[initiate]] and [[coordinate]] your learning [[experiences]], and they remain with you constantly and are [[aware]] of your fluctuating [[capacities]] to [[assimilate]] their teachings. We, the other teachers including myself, accept assignment from these [[Melchizedeks]] and then are given some degree of [[latitude]] in how our assignment is [[manifested]].
  
I bring this to your attention today in an effort to, in a sense, validate your perception that the resident melchizedeks are, indeed, largely responsible for your curriculum and the pace at which your curriculum gets delivered, that outside teachers and personal teachers often are in council with these melchizedeks and are directed by this able band of melchizedeks as to the most beneficial approach to take at any one time.
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Every [[being]] in the stream of [[progression]] has an order and a proper place within this [[plan]] to [[function]] in the most potent arena of their [[expertise]]. The [[Melchizedeks]], in turn, take their [[mandates]] and directives from their superiors, from [[Michael]], from the [[Mother Spirit]], from [[Gabriel]] and those above them in standing. We all realize our position in the affairs of the [[unfoldment]] of [[your world]] and function quite [[interdependently]] in that we each seek to expand and increase [[understanding]] on your parts on a variety of [[different]] [[techniques]] and approaches.
  
As you have noticed regarding all the teachers, all the unseen celestial friends you have contacted, each one has their own personality which comes through in their contact with you. Each one has a unique approach to delivering the content prescribed. It has long since been determined that varying angles of delivery are very beneficial, as there are many varying angles of reception.
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I bring this to your [[attention]] today in an [[effort]] to, in a sense, validate your [[perception]] that the resident [[Melchizedeks]] are, indeed, largely responsible for your [[curriculum]] and the [[pace]] at which your curriculum gets delivered, that outside teachers and personal teachers often are in [[council]] with these Melchizedeks and are directed by this able band of Melchizedeks as to the most beneficial approach to take at any one time.
  
I say this to underscore the importance of this ongoing melchizedek plan; you may call it Melchizedek schools. It is, indeed, the melchizedek course of training. You may hear more and more directly from these melchizedeks, as in the past you may have heard from various individuals who were taking directives from these Melchizedeks. The fact that this order of beings is extremely capable of this endeavor is well noted in your text in the reference to Machiventa who was appointed representative to your world, representative of the truth of one God. They are, indeed, quite able beings to assist you in your ascension career and, perhaps most importantly, to assist you in laying a good, solid foundation upon which you will build this career.
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As you have noticed regarding all [[the teachers]], all the [[unseen]] celestial friends you have contacted, each one has their own [[personality]] which comes through in their [[contact]] with you. Each one has a [[unique]] approach to delivering the [[content]] prescribed. It has long since been determined that varying angles of delivery are very beneficial, as there are many varying angles of [[reception]].
  
I encourage you to welcome enthusiastically this encounter with this splendid order of beings, as they are tireless in their pursuit of bringing about positive changes on your world and within your person. They are a model of devotion and sacrifice, as they are ever willing to redefine their curriculum in conjunction with your receptivity and desires.
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I say this to underscore the importance of this ongoing Melchizedek plan; you may call it [[Melchizedek schools]]. It is, indeed, the Melchizedek [[course]] of [[training]]. You may hear more and more directly from these [[Melchizedeks]], as in the [[past]] you may have heard from various individuals who were taking directives from these Melchizedeks. The [[fact]] that this order of beings is extremely capable of this endeavor is well noted in [[your text]] in the [[reference]] to [[Machiventa]] who was appointed [[Planetary Prince|representative to your world]], representative of the [[truth]] of one God. They are, indeed, quite able beings to assist you in your [[ascension career]] and, perhaps most importantly, to assist you in laying a good, solid [[foundation]] upon which you will build this career.
  
Do not be concerned that you will not hear from the other personalities you have become attached to throughout this process, as we all likewise have become attached to you. We will make ourselves available at every opportunity. But do come into awareness that being a member of the melchizedek schools means more closely following the melchizedek curriculum and being engaged more directly with these teachers themselves.
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I [[encourage]] you to welcome enthusiastically this encounter with this splendid order of beings, as they are tireless in their pursuit of bringing about [[positive]] [[changes]] on [[your world]] and within your person. They are a model of [[devotion]] and [[sacrifice]], as they are ever willing to redefine their [[curriculum]] in conjunction with your [[receptivity]] and [[desires]].
  
I have no lesson planned, as it was covered most eloquently by our Melchizedek friend. I just send my greetings and my love to this group as well as my desire to see us all work more closely together in times to come. I have no doubt that this will occur. I send you each my deepest sincerity.
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Do not be concerned that you will not hear from the other [[personalities]] you have become attached to throughout this [[process]], as we all likewise have become attached to you. We will make ourselves available at every [[opportunity]]. But do come into [[awareness]] that being a member of the [[Melchizedek schools]] means more closely following the Melchizedek [[curriculum]] and being engaged more directly with these teachers themselves.
  
Jonathan: Regarding the teachers' presenting the Melchizedek plan, we are aware of TR coloring and errors. We apply truth discernment to the lessons. A criticism of the mission is that, if error is involved, how can we trust the lessons? We realize that all of life requires discernment in processing truth. Now I see it's not just truth and error but different angles of presentation. Melchizedeks are the pattern; the teachers provide meaning to the pattern. We TRs and listeners grapple with words. We are sharpening our discernment. All of this transferring is a pattern for melchizedek presentation.
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I have no lesson planned, as it was covered most eloquently by our Melchizedek friend. I just send my greetings and my [[love]] to this group as well as my [[desire]] to see us all work more closely together in times to come. I have no [[doubt]] that this will occur. I send you each my deepest [[sincerity]].
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===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Truth]]'''''====
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Jonathan: Regarding [[the teachers]]' presenting the Melchizedek plan, we are aware of [[TR]] coloring and [[errors]]. We apply [[truth]] [[discernment]] to the lessons. A [[criticism]] of [[the mission]] is that, if error is involved, how can we [[trust]] the lessons? We realize that all of [[life]] requires [[discernment]] in processing truth. Now I see it's not just truth and error but different angles of presentation. [[Melchizedeks]] are the pattern; [[the teachers]] provide [[meaning]] to the pattern. We [[TR]]s and listeners grapple with [[words]]. We are sharpening our [[discernment]]. All of this transferring is a pattern for Melchizedek presentation.
  
Elyon: Very well portrayed and equally grasped. I would put forward an image I have brought forward before: There is but one truth. When one asks "what is truth?" there is but one truth. If you picture this truth as the shining of of the sun, it emanates from the sun and shines down on your world and upon you. It is how you perceive this sun, whether you perceive it directly in your face, whether you are turned to the side, whether you are in the shade, whether it has reflected off another surface to you, whether you are in the dark altogether; these are merely aspects of the single truth we attempt to portray. These are the angles I was expressing. Each individual will be in a unique position to this sun, but each individual will get an aspect of this truth, will receive some reflection of this overall truth, be it directly or indirectly or by circuitous path. Nevertheless, we will keep shining this beacon of truth at you, on you, toward you, by you, around you in an attempt to so bombard you with this truth that you will get a good tan!
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Elyon: Very well portrayed and equally grasped. I would put forward an [[image]] I have brought forward before: There is but one [[truth]]. When one asks "what is truth?" there is but one truth. If you picture this truth as the shining of of the [[sun]], it [[emanates]] from the sun and shines down on your world and upon you. It is how you [[perceive]] this sun, whether you perceive it directly in your face, whether you are turned to the side, whether you are in the [[shade]], whether it has [[reflected]] off another surface to you, whether you are in the [[dark]] altogether; these are merely aspects of the single truth we attempt to portray. These are the [[angles]] I was [[expressing]]. Each individual will be in a unique [[position]] to this sun, but each individual will get an aspect of this truth, will receive some reflection of this overall truth, be it directly or indirectly or by circuitous [[path]]. Nevertheless, we will keep shining this beacon of truth at you, on you, toward you, by you, around you in an attempt to so bombard you with this [[truth]] that you will get a good tan!
  
 
Jonathan: You can scorch me once in a while if you need to.
 
Jonathan: You can scorch me once in a while if you need to.
  
Evelyn: I hope you Melchizedeks and teachers feel at liberty to work with us in whatever creative ways you can imagine.
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Evelyn: I hope you [[Melchizedeks]] and [[teachers]] feel at [[liberty]] to work with us in whatever [[creative]] ways you can [[imagine]].
  
Elyon: That is appreciated. As was mentioned earlier in your discussion, it is also to some degree necessary. You may feel from time to time as though you may have stated this before; it is an old topic not needing restatement by you, but in fact every experience is a new, fresh experience. You may take every opportunity presented to you to restate your commitment to truth, to progression forward in evolution, to service to those around you, to healing. Every aspect that is available to you requires your active participation.
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Elyon: That is [[appreciated]]. As was mentioned earlier in your [[discussion]], it is also to some degree [[necessary]]. You may [[feel]] from time to time as though you may have stated this before; it is an old [[topic]] not needing restatement by you, but in fact every [[experience]] is a new, fresh experience. You may take every [[opportunity]] presented to you to restate your [[commitment]] to [[truth]], to [[progression]] forward in evolution, to service to those around you, to [[healing]]. Every aspect that is available to you requires your active [[participation]].
  
It is quite often beneficial, not so much for us teachers but to further align you to your desires, if you repeat your affirmations of sincerity so that you more clearly direct your thought patterns to pursue these avenues. It is also nice as teachers to be made completely and fully aware of your intentions so that we may have more license, more liberty to engage you as you so desire. So, never feel as though you are wasting your time repeating yourself or somehow being redundant in your desires to offer re-commitment, realignment, to seek greater purpose, greater understanding. These are aspects you get when you pursue in asking. We welcome this from you.
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It is quite often beneficial, not so much for [[us teachers]] but to further [[align]] you to your [[desires]], if you repeat your affirmations of [[sincerity]] so that you more clearly direct your [[thought]] patterns to pursue these avenues. It is also nice as teachers to be made completely and fully aware of your [[intentions]] so that we may have more license, more [[liberty]] to [[engage]] you as you so desire. So, never feel as though you are wasting your time repeating yourself or somehow being redundant in your desires to offer re-commitment, realignment, to seek greater [[purpose]], greater understanding. These are aspects you get when you pursue in asking. We welcome this from you.
  
I would offer one more last addition to this image I provided earlier. If you see truth as the radiant light from the sun, then you may view aspects that are untrue, that are not completely true, as having been refracted as through a prism. They may have elements of truth; they may have originated in truth and have been subsequently manipulated through intentional or unintentional means and have been so altered as to no longer be accurate reflections of this original truth. This may help in your understanding of relative truths, that falseness can be a derivative of truth, of truth having been altered as light through a prism. It is still the original light that has been altered to have a different effect and therefore is no longer an accurate and true representation of the light.
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I would offer one more last addition to this [[image]] I provided earlier. If you see [[truth]] as the [[radiant]] light from the [[sun]], then you may view aspects that are untrue, that are not completely true, as having been [[refracted]] as through a [[prism]]. They may have elements of [[truth]]; they may have originated in truth and have been subsequently [[manipulated]] through [[intentional]] or unintentional means and have been so altered as to no longer be [[accurate]] [[reflections]] of this original truth. This may help in your understanding of [[relative]] truths, that [[falseness]] can be a derivative of truth, of truth having been altered as light through a prism. It is still the original light that has been altered to have a different [[effect]] and therefore is no longer an [[accurate]] and true representation of the light.
  
 
I just thought I would throw that in today.
 
I just thought I would throw that in today.
  
Jonathan: As listeners to transmissions, knowing that the light has been passed through a prism, our effort is not to further distort but to refocus the light for a holistic view of the lessons, rather than pick apart each point.
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Jonathan: As [[listeners]] to transmissions, knowing that the [[light]] has been passed through a [[prism]], our [[effort]] is not to further [[distort]] but to refocus the light for a holistic view of the lessons, rather than pick apart each point.
  
Elyon: Very well said. Often you find in your discoveries in regards to the search for truth, even in falseness there are many elements of truth as in separate and distinct colors emanating from the prism. They originated in truth; each one has a fragment, aspect of truth to it, but each one is incomplete when given its relationship to the whole.
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Elyon: Very well said. Often you find in your [[discoveries]] in regards to the search for [[truth]], even in [[falseness]] there are many elements of [[truth]] as in separate and distinct [[colors]] emanating from the [[prism]]. They originated in truth; each one has a [[fragment]], aspect of truth to it, but each one is incomplete when given its [[relationship]] to [[the whole]].
 
===Closing===
 
===Closing===
I thank you all for your diligence and your understanding of the lessons. I realize your efforts in your attempts to understand. Please accept my gratitude for your efforts which enable us to place another stone on the foundation that enables us to someday build the glorious temple on top.
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I thank you all for your [[diligence]] and your [[understanding]] of the lessons. I realize your [[efforts]] in your attempts to understand. Please [[accept]] my [[gratitude]] for your efforts which enable us to place another stone on the [[foundation]] that enables us to someday build the [[Morontia Temple|glorious temple]] on top.
  
 
I leave you now. Thank you.
 
I leave you now. Thank you.
  
Jonathan: When we were introduced to you, Ham told us of your ability with words. It never ceases to amaze me how you use word imagery to help us visualize the lessons. Thank you.
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Jonathan: When we were introduced to you, [[Ham]] told us of your [[ability]] with [[words]]. It never ceases to amaze me how you use word [[imagery]] to help us [[visualize]] the lessons. Thank you.
  
 
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Topic: Agondonter Status

Group: N. Idaho TeaM

Facilitators

Teacher: Elyon, Rantarason

TR: Jonathan

Session

Lesson

Patience, Growth

Rantarason (Jonathan TR): I have a topic to present to you this day; it has to do with patience and its application.

Over the course of the development of civilization on your world your rulers have made errors which disrupted the evolutionary process. This has retarded growth on Urantia. The very intention to circumvent the mandates of revelatory procedure and accelerate progress on this world resulted in its exact opposite, retarded growth. All of us today engaged in this mission of uplift are likewise constrained to the orders of our supervisors regarding what we may present and what must wait for your growth in order to accommodate. So, we have all made the pledge of patience. However, this patience is not passive; it is active. It is a patience which seeks to accomplish the goal, which considers the time-connected difficulties. It is a patience that keenly observes the difficulty and aggressively applies remedies.

Working as you do, conscious of your value to the spiritual efforts being wrought upon this world for the betterment of all mankind, you are ever enhanced; you are self-enthused. This enthusiasm has brought you much personal growth in light of your goals to help this world. This desire to be of service has hastened your own growth. You are not impatient to be continually striving for a better world or a better being that you are. Evolutionary creatures are not required to adhere to revelatory mandates. You are encouraged to become perfect as the Father in heaven is perfect. This can be approached with diligence and direct action, certainly not with complacency. The patience you apply toward yourself and your projects and your endeavors at growth should always be active. It is when you are engaged in help toward another for their betterment that patience can and may appropriately contain passivity, for you have gone beyond your freewill arena and must acknowledge the right of our Father's other child to decide when a lesson is for them to adopt.

So, you will help each of us who is in the role of bringing new light to this world if you remain busy about the Father's business. Then we are able to proceed. Our patience must apply to the rate that you proceed. If you are willing to receive more, we are cleared to present more. If you find yourselves satiated and need to reflect upon prior reception, we are able to wait ages.

I am Rantarason, and I have finished today.

Dialogue

Agondonter

Evelyn: The question of agondonter status came up at our Wednesday group. I understand it as something inevitable; we are agondonters because we live here. The other view is that it is achieved through having faith in the face of rebellion. Could you clarify that?

Rantarason: I would express it as a parallel pattern to my words on patience. All on this world have the potential to be agondonters if they apply their faith. Once faith is active, agondonter status is a reality. Not one of you will fail to achieve this status when you engage your will power in the effort to attain the Father. Ignorance does not provide the status. Conscious awareness of lack in your world and life of the spiritual values you hunger for does initiate the full label.

On a world of normal circuitry and planetary procedures, such a status is not even a potential, in a global way. However, any individual who finds himself isolated and endeavoring to enlighten one's understanding will embark upon the agondonter adventure. So, here on this world all of you are at the doorstep of this status. On a normal world few and rarely do any attain this status.

Does this clarify?

Evelyn: If someone comes from this or another rebel planet and doesn't activate their faith during this life, but then on the mansion worlds does proceed with faith and reach for God, would they still qualify for agondonter status?

Rantarason: Much of this applies to the psychic circle attainment of the individual, for often creatures of isolated worlds bring much that is lacking in their growth into the morontia experience, and the potentials of agondonter qualities are activated. But, some individuals have simply approached life without any consideration and now face the morontia worlds as if they were born on a world in light and life. They are starting so new and so fresh to their career that there are no qualities that apply to being an agondonter.

Does this help?

Evelyn: Sounds like it isn't a simple yes or no situation but depends on individual circumstance.

Rantarason: One of the talents of an agondonter is the ability to function without the guidance of superiors, to pursue truth on one's own initiative. If these traits are exhibited on an evolutionary world in isolation, then you have that status. If you are resurrected without ever applying yourself this way, you have not set the conditions for being able to function in agondonter roles in the future.

On the heels of my presentation to you today, I must restate that you who value this agondonter quality must be active. Do not let the cherished status of agondonter class lull you into thinking that preventing celestial contact is improving your standing. To simply be without the guidance of your superior ascending creatures does not immediately qualify you. What qualifies you is your intended application to live truth in spite of its apparent absence.

I hope this has been helpful.

Evelyn: It's amusing when people express that fear of losing their status. It reminds me of someone not wanting to leave prison because they will lose their benefits. Thank you and I appreciate the lesson on active patience.

Elyon (Mark): Greetings, my friends. This is your friend and associate, Elyon. I always welcome the opportunity and view it as a privilege and a pleasure to come among you, my eager and earnest students. I would address you today on a shift in emphasis that you are becoming increasingly aware of.

Melchizedek Schools

As has been stated previously, you all here today are, and have been, members of the Melchizedek training schools. This has been accepted by you for some time as a statement of fact. I would offer you more complete understanding of the conditions of this role in which you find yourselves engaged. As you may have deduced by this point, your Melchizedek friends and brothers are in a very real sense your immediate custodians, in that they are most similar to you in your makeup, in your dwelling place, in that they inhabit the same space that you do. They are intimately familiar with your history and have equal familiarity with your destinies. It is their purpose in the scheme of the divine plan for them to monitor and oversee, initiate and coordinate your learning experiences, and they remain with you constantly and are aware of your fluctuating capacities to assimilate their teachings. We, the other teachers including myself, accept assignment from these Melchizedeks and then are given some degree of latitude in how our assignment is manifested.

Every being in the stream of progression has an order and a proper place within this plan to function in the most potent arena of their expertise. The Melchizedeks, in turn, take their mandates and directives from their superiors, from Michael, from the Mother Spirit, from Gabriel and those above them in standing. We all realize our position in the affairs of the unfoldment of your world and function quite interdependently in that we each seek to expand and increase understanding on your parts on a variety of different techniques and approaches.

I bring this to your attention today in an effort to, in a sense, validate your perception that the resident Melchizedeks are, indeed, largely responsible for your curriculum and the pace at which your curriculum gets delivered, that outside teachers and personal teachers often are in council with these Melchizedeks and are directed by this able band of Melchizedeks as to the most beneficial approach to take at any one time.

As you have noticed regarding all the teachers, all the unseen celestial friends you have contacted, each one has their own personality which comes through in their contact with you. Each one has a unique approach to delivering the content prescribed. It has long since been determined that varying angles of delivery are very beneficial, as there are many varying angles of reception.

I say this to underscore the importance of this ongoing Melchizedek plan; you may call it Melchizedek schools. It is, indeed, the Melchizedek course of training. You may hear more and more directly from these Melchizedeks, as in the past you may have heard from various individuals who were taking directives from these Melchizedeks. The fact that this order of beings is extremely capable of this endeavor is well noted in your text in the reference to Machiventa who was appointed representative to your world, representative of the truth of one God. They are, indeed, quite able beings to assist you in your ascension career and, perhaps most importantly, to assist you in laying a good, solid foundation upon which you will build this career.

I encourage you to welcome enthusiastically this encounter with this splendid order of beings, as they are tireless in their pursuit of bringing about positive changes on your world and within your person. They are a model of devotion and sacrifice, as they are ever willing to redefine their curriculum in conjunction with your receptivity and desires.

Do not be concerned that you will not hear from the other personalities you have become attached to throughout this process, as we all likewise have become attached to you. We will make ourselves available at every opportunity. But do come into awareness that being a member of the Melchizedek schools means more closely following the Melchizedek curriculum and being engaged more directly with these teachers themselves.

I have no lesson planned, as it was covered most eloquently by our Melchizedek friend. I just send my greetings and my love to this group as well as my desire to see us all work more closely together in times to come. I have no doubt that this will occur. I send you each my deepest sincerity.

Discernment, Truth

Jonathan: Regarding the teachers' presenting the Melchizedek plan, we are aware of TR coloring and errors. We apply truth discernment to the lessons. A criticism of the mission is that, if error is involved, how can we trust the lessons? We realize that all of life requires discernment in processing truth. Now I see it's not just truth and error but different angles of presentation. Melchizedeks are the pattern; the teachers provide meaning to the pattern. We TRs and listeners grapple with words. We are sharpening our discernment. All of this transferring is a pattern for Melchizedek presentation.

Elyon: Very well portrayed and equally grasped. I would put forward an image I have brought forward before: There is but one truth. When one asks "what is truth?" there is but one truth. If you picture this truth as the shining of of the sun, it emanates from the sun and shines down on your world and upon you. It is how you perceive this sun, whether you perceive it directly in your face, whether you are turned to the side, whether you are in the shade, whether it has reflected off another surface to you, whether you are in the dark altogether; these are merely aspects of the single truth we attempt to portray. These are the angles I was expressing. Each individual will be in a unique position to this sun, but each individual will get an aspect of this truth, will receive some reflection of this overall truth, be it directly or indirectly or by circuitous path. Nevertheless, we will keep shining this beacon of truth at you, on you, toward you, by you, around you in an attempt to so bombard you with this truth that you will get a good tan!

Jonathan: You can scorch me once in a while if you need to.

Evelyn: I hope you Melchizedeks and teachers feel at liberty to work with us in whatever creative ways you can imagine.

Elyon: That is appreciated. As was mentioned earlier in your discussion, it is also to some degree necessary. You may feel from time to time as though you may have stated this before; it is an old topic not needing restatement by you, but in fact every experience is a new, fresh experience. You may take every opportunity presented to you to restate your commitment to truth, to progression forward in evolution, to service to those around you, to healing. Every aspect that is available to you requires your active participation.

It is quite often beneficial, not so much for us teachers but to further align you to your desires, if you repeat your affirmations of sincerity so that you more clearly direct your thought patterns to pursue these avenues. It is also nice as teachers to be made completely and fully aware of your intentions so that we may have more license, more liberty to engage you as you so desire. So, never feel as though you are wasting your time repeating yourself or somehow being redundant in your desires to offer re-commitment, realignment, to seek greater purpose, greater understanding. These are aspects you get when you pursue in asking. We welcome this from you.

I would offer one more last addition to this image I provided earlier. If you see truth as the radiant light from the sun, then you may view aspects that are untrue, that are not completely true, as having been refracted as through a prism. They may have elements of truth; they may have originated in truth and have been subsequently manipulated through intentional or unintentional means and have been so altered as to no longer be accurate reflections of this original truth. This may help in your understanding of relative truths, that falseness can be a derivative of truth, of truth having been altered as light through a prism. It is still the original light that has been altered to have a different effect and therefore is no longer an accurate and true representation of the light.

I just thought I would throw that in today.

Jonathan: As listeners to transmissions, knowing that the light has been passed through a prism, our effort is not to further distort but to refocus the light for a holistic view of the lessons, rather than pick apart each point.

Elyon: Very well said. Often you find in your discoveries in regards to the search for truth, even in falseness there are many elements of truth as in separate and distinct colors emanating from the prism. They originated in truth; each one has a fragment, aspect of truth to it, but each one is incomplete when given its relationship to the whole.

Closing

I thank you all for your diligence and your understanding of the lessons. I realize your efforts in your attempts to understand. Please accept my gratitude for your efforts which enable us to place another stone on the foundation that enables us to someday build the glorious temple on top.

I leave you now. Thank you.

Jonathan: When we were introduced to you, Ham told us of your ability with words. It never ceases to amaze me how you use word imagery to help us visualize the lessons. Thank you.