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Group prayer.
 
Group prayer.
  
Iruka: The light of God.......
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Iruka: The [[light]] of [[God]].......
  
Iruka: Good afternoon, this is Iruka I am your teacher and guide. I am very happy to be here. I can feel the excitement in the room.  
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Iruka: Good afternoon, this is Iruka I am your [[teacher]] and [[guide]]. I am very [[happy]] to be here. I can [[feel]] the [[excitement]] in the room.  
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
I can tell that you are seekers of truth and I wish to help you on your path to the Father. This path is very exciting and it is very rewarding, but it takes time and growth can be painful...but you will be rewarded for your diligence. The goal of course is to become in alignment with the Father. To have your will to be His will, to follow Him. The joy that you get from this is immeasurable. The love that you get from the Father you learn to turn around and give it to others. Sometimes this is difficult, some people are not used to receiving love. And yet they need it so badly. Do not be discouraged, for you see the Father has experienced this same rejection. Those who reject the love are the ones who need it the most. You receive love from the Father, and you turn around and give it away. It doesn't matter if you are rejected, you will receive more love from the Father. You do not depend on the reactions of others, but the love from God is your strength. So my lesson for tonight is short but it is difficult. To rely on the Father, get your strength from Him and your love, and you in turn give it away. This week find another individual to show love. This can be as simple as a smile, as a cup of coffee, as being a listening person to their troubles. The more you practice the easier it gets. And if you don't expect anything in return from that person you will not be disappointed. Your Father will take care of you. This is my lesson for this evening, and I will now accept questions.
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I can tell that you are [[seekers]] of [[truth]] and I wish to help you on your [[path]] to [[the Father]]. This path is very exciting and it is very [[rewarding]], but it takes [[time]] and [[growth]] can be [[painful]]...but you will be rewarded for your [[diligence]]. The goal of course is to become in [[alignment]] with [[the Father]]. To have your will to be His will, to follow Him. The [[joy]] that you get from this is immeasurable. The [[love]] that you get from [[the Father]] you learn to turn around and give it to others. Sometimes this is [[difficult]], some people are not used to [[receiving]] [[love]]. And yet they need it so badly. Do not be [[discouraged]], for you see [[the Father]] has experienced this same [[rejection]]. Those who reject the [[love]] are the ones who need it the most. You [[receive]] love from [[the Father]], and you turn around and give it away. It doesn't matter if you are [[rejected]], you will receive more love from [[the Father]]. You do not depend on the [[reactions]] of others, but the love from [[God]] is your [[strength]]. So my lesson for tonight is short but it is [[difficult]]. To rely on the Father, get your [[strength]] from Him and your love, and you in turn give it away. This week find another [[individual]] to show [[love]]. This can be as [[simple]] as a [[smile]], as a cup of coffee, as being a [[listening]] person to their [[troubles]]. The more you [[practice]] the easier it gets. And if you don't [[expect]] anything in return from that person you will not be [[disappointed]]. Y[[our Father]] will take care of you. This is my lesson for this evening, and I will now [[accept]] questions.
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
J1: Iruka this is John, we heard last night that there were 36 or so teaching groups plus another one in Maryland, could you tell us where that group is?
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J1: Iruka this is John, we heard last night that there were [[TeaM|36 or so teaching groups]] plus another one in Maryland, could you tell us where that group is?
  
Iruka: Not specifically, but it is far away, and Pam has trouble with names so I suggest you wait until you get the list. I am not sure they are aware of you either, of this group either.
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Iruka: Not specifically, but it is far away, and Pam has trouble with [[names]] so I suggest you wait until you get the list. I am not sure they are [[aware]] of you either, of this group either.
  
W1: Good evening Iruka, this is Willis. I wanted to introduce you to two more members I introduced the book to. Mr James Williams who goes by the name Jimmy Williams and a friend of his George.
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W1: Good evening Iruka, this is Willis. I wanted to introduce you to two more members I introduced [[the book]] to. Mr James Williams who goes by the name Jimmy Williams and a friend of his George.
  
 
Iruka: Welcome Jimmy and George.
 
Iruka: Welcome Jimmy and George.
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W1: Are there many other beings here with you tonight?
 
W1: Are there many other beings here with you tonight?
  
Iruka: Oh yes, there are always many beings. There is a lot of attention on this mission. So there are always many beings watching.
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Iruka: Oh yes, there are always many beings. There is a lot of [[attention]] on [[this mission]]. So there are always many [[beings]] watching.
  
J2: Hello Iruka, I am Jimmy. Comments on the lesson about love. What is my spiritual name?
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J2: Hello Iruka, I am Jimmy. Comments on the lesson about love. What is my [[spiritual]] name?
  
Iruka: Han, H-A-N, Pam is very unsure. We will have to confirm it later.
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Iruka: Han, H-A-N, Pam is very unsure. We will have to [[confirm]] it later.
  
G1: Hello Iruka, this is George. Iruka I have been trying to follow after God for several years. I don't know that you know the history of when I first started churching, but I am very pleased and overjoyed to be a witness to what is going on this evening. If I have a spiritual name would you please give it to me.
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G1: Hello Iruka, this is George. Iruka I have been trying to follow after [[God]] for several years. I don't know that you know the [[history]] of when I first started churching, but I am very pleased and overjoyed to be a [[witness]] to what is going on this evening. If I have a spiritual name would you please give it to me.
  
 
Iruka: Again, Pam is very unsure. Aerik, names are most difficult I am sorry I can't do better.
 
Iruka: Again, Pam is very unsure. Aerik, names are most difficult I am sorry I can't do better.
  
G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy. I don't know if you know that Gail and I are married. Were you aware of that from our last meeting?
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G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy. I don't know if you know that Gail and I are [[married]]. Were you aware of that from our last meeting?
  
 
Iruka: Yes
 
Iruka: Yes
  
G2: And I was wondering over the week have you had a chance to visit our home?
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G2: And I was [[wondering]] over the week have you had a [[chance]] to [[visit]] our [[home]]?
  
 
Iruka: One evening I visited.
 
Iruka: One evening I visited.
  
G2: OK, I was wondering when was that and was the level of love that you were telling us was good for a child to come into the house.
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G2: OK, I was [[wondering]] when was that and was the level of love that you were telling us was [[good]] for a child to come into the house.
  
Iruka: I felt love in your home, I did not, was not concerned with the level, just that there is love and it flows, and it was not measured. Yes, there was love in your home. Does this answer?
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Iruka: I felt [[love]] in your [[home]], I did not, was not concerned with the level, just that there is love and it [[flows]], and it was not measured. Yes, there was love in your [[home]]. Does this answer?
  
 
G2: Yes, I was also wondering when did you visit our home?
 
G2: Yes, I was also wondering when did you visit our home?
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G2: Its an answer, but I don't think we were home Wednesday, we both work. We weren't there at the time?
 
G2: Its an answer, but I don't think we were home Wednesday, we both work. We weren't there at the time?
  
Iruka: You were there when I visited, I may have the day wrong. I'm sorry I'm not sure.
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Iruka: You were there when I [[visited]], I may have the day wrong. I'm sorry I'm not sure.
  
G2: Thank you. One more question. Around Washington there are a lot of homeless people and it is kind of hard to distinguish those in need from those that want money to buy drugs. How can you tell people that need.. is there a way to tell people that need from people that want?
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G2: Thank you. One more question. Around Washington there are a lot of [[homeless]] people and it is kind of hard to distinguish those in need from those that want [[money]] to buy [[drugs]]. How can you tell people that need.. is there a way to tell people that need from people that want?
  
Iruka: You are asking this question and I think you mean by looking at them? Can you tell? Not without getting to know them, and maybe then not, Only an individual knows what he wants or plans to do. You wish to make a judgement on what somebody will do with what you give them?
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Iruka: You are asking this question and I think you mean by looking at them? Can you tell? Not without getting to know them, and maybe then not, Only an [[individual]] knows what he wants or [[plans]] to do. You wish to make a [[judgement]] on what somebody will do with what you give them?
  
G2: Yes, I used to give money freely and I find out that some people use that money for bad purposes. How or what would be a good way to conduct myself when confronted with such situations, is there a heavenly way to conduct myself?...or what should my priorities be.
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G2: Yes, I used to give [[money]] freely and I find out that some people use that money for bad [[purposes]]. How or what would be a good way to conduct myself when [[confronted]] with such situations, is there a heavenly way to [[conduct]] myself?...or what should my [[priorities]] be.
  
Iruka: Jesus was very sympathetic to the poor. However, he knew that not everyone really were seeking or wanted what they were asking for. There is really no way to know for sure, you follow your guide inside. There is no way to know. If you wish to help, there are groups that see that clothing and food is distributed, but no one can make a judgement in a minute or 30 seconds. Ask yourself inside how to respond, your thought adjuster that piece of God inside of you can guide you, can help you respond. It is very difficult with so many everywhere.
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Iruka: [[Jesus]] was very [[sympathetic]] to the [[poor]]. However, he knew that not everyone really were seeking or wanted what they were asking for. There is really no way to know for sure, you follow your guide inside. There is no way to know. If you [[wish]] to help, there are [[groups]] that see that [[clothing]] and [[food]] is distributed, but no one can make a [[judgement]] in a minute or 30 seconds. Ask yourself inside how to [[respond]], your [[Thought Adjuster]] that piece of God inside of you can guide you, can help you [[respond]]. It is very [[difficult]] with so many everywhere.
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===='''''[[Reincarnation]]''''', '''''[[Afterlife]]'''''====
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G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail. I was [[wondering]] if you could tell me, tell us if there are...if it is possible that we as spiritual [[beings]] have lived in the [[past]] and if we bring from...sort of like [[reincarnation]]. If there is any [[truth]] to that having [[past]] lives, which we can learn from our [[experiences]] or something that we can bring from the past that can spiritually help us now. And if there is any significance to [[Karma]]?
  
G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail. I was wondering if you could tell me, tell us if there are...if it is possible that we as spiritual beings have lived in the past and if we bring from...sort of like re-incarnation. If there is any truth to that having past lives, which we can learn from our experiences or something that we can bring from the past that can spiritually help us now. And if there is any significance to Karma?
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Iruka: Karma is the concept of..that something will happen. Is this how you are interpreting [[Karma]]?
  
Iruka: Karma is the concept of..that something will happen. Is this how you are interpreting Karma?
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G3: I [[believe]] the way I [[understand]] [[Karma]] to be is things that you have done in the [[past]] that were bad things then they would affect what is happening in your current life and you would [[experience]] a recurrence or repayment for what you had done in the [[past]] and if you had done something good to someone in maybe another life that would [[reflect]] upon your current life maybe you would be [[blessed]] for what you had done in your [[past]] lives, now and also do unto others as you would have them do unto you is I guess another segment of [[Karma]], another [[interpretation]] of it. Does that have any significance, especially in [[relation]] to past lives?
  
G3: I believe the way I understand Karma to be is things that you have done in the past that were bad things then they would affect what is happening in your current life and you would experience a recurrence or repayment for what you had done in the past and if you had done something good to someone in maybe another life that would reflect upon your current life maybe you would be blessed for what you had done in your past lives, now and also do unto others as you would have them do unto you is I guess another segment of Karma, another interpretation of it. Does that have any
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Iruka: Thank you I better [[understand]] the question now. First, becoming a [[material]], a [[space-time]] [[creature]], is the first step. After you die and leave your material body, then next is the [[Morontia worlds]] for there are many. But to come back as another material being is not what happens. So [[Karma]] is not a word we worry about, it has no [[meaning]] when it is referred to different lives in the [[material]]. When you go on to a [[Morontia world]] you pick up at the spiritual level that you left off. And you are [[aware]] that humans have [[free will]], so any [[path]] can be chosen and even after it is chosen it can be [[changed]]. Human will makes all the [[difference]] in your life. To be locked into a [[future]] because of decisions you made in the [[past]] is not valid, unless you continue to make those same decisions that put you there. Does this help, is this what you are asking?
 
 
significance, especially in relation to past lives?
 
 
 
Iruka: Thank you I better understand the question now. First, becoming a material, a space-time creature, is the first step. After you die and leave your material body, then next is the Morontia worlds for there are many. But to come back as another material being is not what happens. So Karma is not a word we worry about, it has no meaning when it is referred to different lives in the material. When you go on to a Morontia world you pick up at the spiritual level that you left off. And you are aware that humans have free will, so any path can be chosen and even after it is chosen it can be changed. Human will makes all the difference in your life. To be locked into a future because of decisions you made in the past is not valid, unless you continue to make those same decisions that put you there. Does this help, is this what you are asking?
 
  
 
G3: Yes it helps, thank you, it is what I am asking.
 
G3: Yes it helps, thank you, it is what I am asking.
  
G1: I wonder if it would be feasible to ask for a private meeting.
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G1: I [[wonder]] if it would be feasible to ask for a [[private]] meeting.
  
 
Iruka: Yes, check with Pam, on a time and day, later.
 
Iruka: Yes, check with Pam, on a time and day, later.
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===='''''[[Collective Consciousness]]'''''====
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W1: Iruka, this is Willis again. I had to [[smile]] when Gail asked you about the [[past]] lives and [[reincarnation]] because you and I at our first [[meeting]] had those same questions. Since that time I do have a much better [[understanding]] and things make a lot more sense now. I am just [[curious]], could you, if you are allowed, could you speak about the [[collective consciousness]].
  
W1: Iruka, this is Willis again. I had to smile when Gail asked you about the past lives and reincarnation because you and I at our first meeting had those same questions. Since that time I do have a much better understanding and things make a lot more sense now. I am just curious, could you, if you are allowed, could you speak about the collective consciousness.
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Iruka: There is indeed a [[collective consciousness]]. And it is in general very [[negative]]. What needs to be done is to [[change]] it to [[love]] and [[positive]] thoughts, so that it can [[influence]] the whole world. This is one way that we can turn the [[hate]] and the lost, the [[isolation]] [[feelings]] around and turn them into [[love]], and the feeling that [[individuals]] are never [[alone]]. These feelings have been lost. Does this help?
 
 
Iruka: There is indeed a collective consciousness. And it is in general very negative. What needs to be done is to change it to love and positive thoughts, so that it can influence the whole world. This is one way that we can turn the hate and the lost, the isolation feelings around and turn them into love, and the feeling that individuals are never alone. These feelings have been lost. Does this help?
 
  
W1: Yes, anything would have helped, because I am in the dark about the collective consciousness. Is it negative as a result of the past default and Caligastia and the rebellion?
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W1: Yes, anything would have helped, because I am in the [[dark]] about the [[collective consciousness]]. Is it [[negative]] as a result of the [[Adamic Default|past default]] and [[Caligastia]] and [[the rebellion]]?
  
Iruka: Of course, yes, that started much of it. And its
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Iruka: Of course, yes, that started much of it. And its [[influenced]] by general [[thoughts]] of [[hate]] and [[revenge]] that you see happening all over the world. Much like a snowball, it has grown in the wrong [[direction]]. It can be turned around, but we have to get [[love]] and [[peace]] rolling along that same hill, like a snowball, and overpower the [[hate]] and the [[anger]]. This is a job, this has to be a [[conscious]] effort, but it can be done.
  
influenced by general thoughts of hate and revenge that you see happening all over the world. Much like a snowball, it has grown in the wrong direction. It can be turned around, but we have to get love and peace rolling along that same hill, like a snowball, and overpower the hate and the anger. This is a job, this has to be a conscious effort, but it can be done.
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W1: Yes, in reading [[the transcripts]], I [[remember]] [[reading]], I don't know if it was the [[Melchizedek]] or [[Welmek]] speaking, but the goal of [[Michael]] of [[Salvington]] and the [[Supreme]] and of course the [[Universal Father]] was to help rid [[Isolated worlds|the planets affected by the rebellion]], rid them of [[negativity]]. Would that be this, the [[collective consciousness]] be a major part of that?
  
W1: Yes, in reading the transcripts, I remember reading, I don't know if it was the Melchizedek or Wilmec speaking, but the goal of Michael of Salvington and the Supreme and of course the Universal Father was to help rid the planets affected by the rebellion, rid them of negativity. Would that be this, the collective consciousness be a major part of that?
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Iruka: Yes you [[understood]] well.
  
Iruka: Yes you understood well.
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J1: Iruka, this is Jimmy again. Speaking about [[love]], as I mentioned initially, there is something I have been [[practicing]] consciously each morning. In my [[meditation]] I send out unconditional [[love]] to all that God would love and I find that that is making me capable of [[communicating]] with my fellow man and when I run into this [[negativity]] it no longer [[angers]] me, no longer upsets me and it makes me want to [[share]] that with my fellow man. The results that I am getting. I just wanted to share that with the group. Thank you.
  
J1: Iruka, this is Jimmy again. Speaking about love, as I mentioned initially, there is something I have been practicing consciously each morning. In my meditation I send out
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Iruka: Thank you and that was very [[beautifully]] put. Because indeed, the more [[love]] and the more [[in line]] with [[the Father]], the less the [[opinions]] and [[thoughts]] of those around you will affect you when you draw only on [[the Father]] and get your [[strength]] from Him. It is like [[water]] on the back of a duck, it will roll off because you are [[in line]] with [[the Father]].
  
unconditional love to all that God would love and I find that that is making me capable of communicating with my fellow man and when I run into this negativity it no longer angers me, no longer upsets me and it makes me want to share that with my fellow man. The results that I am getting. I just wanted to share that with the group. Thank you.
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S1: Hello Iruka, this is Steve. Thank you for coming. Is Curtis here? Very good, I want to [[communicate]] with him that I feel like I have not been a very good [[pupil]] and I wish to make a continued [[effort]] or better effort to [[communicate]] with him, and continue becoming a [[student]] or being a student.
  
Iruka: Thank you and that was very beautifully put. Because indeed, the more love and the more in line with the Father, the less the opinions and thoughts of those around you will affect you when you draw only on the Father and get your strength from Him. It is like water on the back of a duck, it will roll off because you are in line with the Father.
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Iruka: He hears your [[words]], and he is not [[judgmental]], he is [[happy]] that you want to [[learn]] and [[grow]]. And he wants to help you.  
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===='''''[[Evil]]'''''====
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G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy again. I know all the [[forces]] of [[evil]] have been dispelled. But on [[Earth]], we see in the news about all these [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism satanic groups] still going on. Are they getting their [[negative]] energy from among themselves, and I just want to get an [[understanding]] on what is going on with that.
  
S1: Hello Iruka, this is Steve. Thank you for coming. Is Curtis here? Very good, I want to communicate with him that I feel like I have not been a very good pupil and I wish to make a continued effort or better effort to communicate with him, and continue becoming a student or being a student.
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Iruka: You have said that correctly. The [[human]] [[mind]] is very powerful. And if it sets up a situation and it [[believes]] that, then the human mind thinks it is real. That in conjunction with the [[community]] of all the people, that they are creating this
 
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themselves. It takes a lot of [[energy]] to sustain this type of [[negativeness]] and slowly this should die out, much on its own. Does this help?
Iruka: He hears your words, and he is not judgmental, he is happy that you want to learn and grow. And he wants to help you. G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy again. I know all the forces of evil have been dispelled. But on Earth, we see in the news about all these satanic groups still going on. Are they getting their negative energy from among themselves, and I just want to get an understanding on what is going on with that.
 
 
 
Iruka: You have said that correctly. The human mind is very powerful. And if it sets up a situation and it believes that, then the human mind thinks it is real. That in conjunction with the community of all the people, that they are creating this
 
 
 
themselves. It takes a lot of energy to sustain this type of negativeness and slowly this should die out, much on its own. Does this help?
 
  
 
G2: It helps a lot. Thank you very much.
 
G2: It helps a lot. Thank you very much.
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===='''''[[Dreams]]'''''====
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G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail again. I have a question about [[dreams]]. I dream a lot and I was [[wondering]] does God deal with you in your dreams? To show you, to teach you, or show you things [[spiritually]]? And if so I was [[wondering]] how I can go about [[learning]] or being more [[attentive]] to what I am dreaming so I can [[experience]] what [[God]] is trying to show me. Because sometimes I feel that God is dealing with me through [[dreams]]. Could you speak on that?
  
G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail again. I have a question about dreams. I dream a lot and I was wondering does God deal with you in your dreams? To show you, to teach you, or show you things spiritually? And if so I was wondering how I can go about learning or being more attentive to what I am dreaming so I can experience what God is trying to show me. Because sometimes I feel that God is dealing with me through dreams. Could you speak on that?
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Iruka: Of course. First, let me say that with God anything is possible. To say that He is [[speaking]] to you through your [[dreams]], I don`t know. But I have a suggestion how you could find out. You obviously remember the [[dreams]], take these dreams to Him in your [[prayer]] time and ask Him. If they are [[symbolic]], if there is something He wants you to [[learn]] and then be very [[conscious]] in your life for the answers. The answer may not come in [[prayer]] time. It may come while you are walking down the street. It may come at a time when you are doing something else. This is the best that I can tell you to learn what they mean. Does this help
 
 
Iruka: Of course. First, let me say that with God anything is possible. To say that He is speaking to you through your dreams, I don`t know. But I have a suggestion how you could find out. You obviously remember the dreams, take these dreams to Him in your prayer time and ask Him. If they are symbolic, if there is something He wants you to learn and then be very conscious in your life for the answers. The answer may not come in prayer time. It may come while you are walking down the street. It may come at a time when you are doing something else. This is the best that I can tell you to learn what they mean. Does this help
 
  
 
G2: Yes, thanks, it helps a lot.
 
G2: Yes, thanks, it helps a lot.
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===='''''[[Supreme]]'''''====
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W1: During the period when [[our planet]] and others were isolated was that isolation also keeping these planets from affecting the [[growth]] of [[the Supreme]]?
  
W1: During the period when our planet and others were isolated was that isolation also keeping these planets from affecting the growth of the Supreme?
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Iruka: Let me re-phrase your [[question]] to make sure I [[understand]]. When [[this planet]] was cut off from [[Universe Circuits|the communications]], was this inhibiting the [[growth]] of the [[Supreme Being]], is that correct.
 
 
Iruka: Let me re-phrase your question to make sure I understand. When this planet was cut off from the communications, was this inhibiting the growth of the Supreme being, is that correct.
 
 
 
W1: Not quite, not necessarily inhibiting the growth, but was He able to access this area during the isolation. I know that He takes the experiences from everywhere, but during isolation here was He still able to capture the experiences from the isolated planets.
 
 
 
Iruka: Yes. He is not affected by the circuits that His lower subjects are controlled by. And so yes, He indeed experienced the frustration and everything else. He has no limitations in that regard.
 
 
 
J1: As a follow-up to Willis's question, are all the circuits open now?
 
 
 
Iruka: Many circuits are open, not every single circuit of course, it will take time, but it is happening. That is the good news. It is happening.
 
 
 
W1: When we ask a question, and there is a time lapse between answers, are you using the circuits at that time to access information from other beings?
 
 
 
Iruka: Very perceptive, indeed if I don't immediately know the answer, I have help and part of that time is spent transmitting it to Pam. And that can also be slow. So yes.
 
  
W1: Obviously in accessing names it takes a bit of time so I may as well throw mine in. You don't have to give me the answer now, but the next time we gather I would like to know what Willis is.
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W1: Not quite, not necessarily inhibiting the [[growth]], but was He able to [[access]] this area during the [[isolation]]. I know that He takes the [[experiences]] from everywhere, but during [[isolation]] here was He still able to capture the [[experiences]] from the [[isolated planets]].
  
Iruka: Noted. The problem is, Pam does not have enough
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Iruka: Yes. He is not affected by [[the circuits]] that His lower subjects are [[controlled]] by. And so yes, He indeed [[experienced]] the [[frustration]] and everything else. He has no [[limitations]] in that regard.
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===='''''[[Circuits]]'''''====
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J1: As a follow-up to Willis's [[question]], are all [[the circuits]] open now?
  
experience. She came on line very fast and there are gaps. We are working around the gaps, but it may be a long time before she is comfortable and has any confidence with names. Does this help?
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Iruka: Many [[circuits]] are open, not every single circuit of course, it will take time, but it is happening. That is the good news. It is happening.
  
W1: Yes, it also brings on one other question. When you receive the information on the name, I take it there is a translation involved for Pam to actually speak it to us?
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W1: When we ask a question, and there is a time lapse between answers, are you using the [[circuits]] at that time to [[access]] [[information]] from other [[beings]]?
  
Iruka: Some words are visualized, some ideas or short phrases. Sometimes I don't give the words or a phrase, I give an idea. Pam must come up with the words in some cases. But names can be anything and it can be difficult. Does this help?
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Iruka: Very [[perceptive]], indeed if I don't immediately know the answer, I have help and part of that time is spent [[transmitting]] it to Pam. And that can also be slow. So yes.
  
G1: Iruka this is George. I don't have a question, I would just like to express my appreciation for listening. A lot of the things that were said here this evening have quickened my spirit, have made me understand that this is indeed a special group, a special time, a special session that I am attending and I would just like to say that I have enjoyed, my spirit has enjoyed it very much. Thank you.
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W1: Obviously in [[accessing]] [[names]] it takes a bit of time so I may as well throw mine in. You don't have to give me the answer now, but the next time we gather I would like to know what Willis is.
  
Iruka: You are welcome, thank you.
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Iruka: Noted. The problem is, Pam does not have enough [[experience]]. She came on line very fast and there are gaps. We are working around the gaps, but it may be a long time before she is comfortable and has any [[confidence]] with [[names]]. Does this help?
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W1: Yes, it also brings on one other question. When you receive the [[information]] on the name, I take it there is a [[translation]] involved for Pam to actually speak it to us?
  
G3: Iruka this is Gail, I have one last question, since we are on the spiritual names. Could you tell me what is the significance of knowing your spiritual name and is there a certain time like in prayer or that we should use our spiritual name if we know it, and this is the third part of it, if you could and if it is easy, could you tell me my spiritual name and the significance of it and when I should use it. I guess that is what I want to say.
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Iruka: Some [[words]] are visualized, some [[ideas]] or short phrases. Sometimes I don't give the [[words]] or a phrase, I give an [[idea]]. Pam must come up with the words in some cases. But names can be anything and it can be difficult. Does this help?
  
Iruka: Your spiritual name describes who you are. It is a translation a literal meaning that really has no significance on this plane. It is used, it will be used, on the Morontia side. You don't need to use it, it is a matter of curiosity to humans and so we tell them what it is, but on this side you don't have to use it at any time. God knows who you are, no matter what you call yourself. No matter who calls you and what they call you. He knows each one of his children, and if you wanted people to call you by that name, that is fine. But it is not necessary. Does this help?
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G1: Iruka this is George. I don't have a question, I would just like to express my [[appreciation]] for [[listening]]. A lot of the things that were said here this evening have quickened my spirit, have made me [[understand]] that this is indeed a special group, a special time, a special session that I am attending and I would just like to say that I have [[enjoyed]], my spirit has enjoyed it very much. Thank you.
  
G2: Yes, could you tell me is there such a thing as praying in the spirit? I know we as humans many times pray audibly to God in our own language, but there is such a thing I have been told and in reading in the Bible which they speak of "speaking in tongues" and also many have referred to that as praying in the spirit. Do you know anything about praying in the spirit or could you explain it to me? . ..or do you know anything about that.
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Iruka: You are [[welcome]], thank you.
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G3: Iruka this is Gail, I have one last question, since we are on the spiritual [[names]]. Could you tell me what is the significance of knowing your spiritual name and is there a certain time like in [[prayer]] or that we should use our spiritual name if we know it, and this is the third part of it, if you could and if it is easy, could you tell me my spiritual name and the significance of it and when I should use it. I guess that is what I want to say.
  
Iruka: Yes, I think it is a tool. When you are praying in the spirit or in tongues, it helps to focus your attention on God. Sometimes prayers that have been said over and over and over again have lost their focus. People can say these prayers and watch TV. But this helps focus your attention on God, the one you are praying to. In a way, it is similar to meditating. In that you are only thinking about God. Of course you can't feel any of His love or communication from Him because you are praying. But its the same idea, does this help?
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Iruka: Your spiritual name [[describes]] who you are. It is a [[translation]] a [[literal]] [[meaning]] that really has no significance on this [[plane]]. It is used, it will be used, on the [[Morontia]] side. You don't need to use it, it is a matter of [[curiosity]] to humans and so we tell them what it is, but on this side you don't have to use it at any time. God knows who you are, no matter what you call yourself. No matter who calls you and what they call you. He knows each one of his children, and if you wanted people to call you by that name, that is fine. But it is not [[necessary]]. Does this help?
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G2: Yes, could you tell me is there such a thing as [[praying]] in the [[spirit]]? I know we as humans many times pray audibly to [[God]] in our own [[language]], but there is such a thing I have been told and in [[reading]] in the [[Bible]] which they speak of "speaking in tongues" and also many have referred to that as praying in the spirit. Do you know anything about praying in the spirit or could you [[explain]] it to me? . ..or do you know anything about that.
  
G2: Yes, when I am praying in the spirit, I always feel closer to God, I feel more spiritually connected and I feel that God hears my prayers better when I am praying in the spirit rather than when I am in the English tongue. So even though I don't pray in the spirit as often as I feel I should, I sometimes,
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Iruka: Yes, I think it is a [[tool]]. When you are praying in the spirit or in tongues, it helps to [[focus]] your [[attention]] on [[God]]. Sometimes [[prayers]] that have been said over and over and over again have lost their [[focus]]. People can say these prayers and watch TV. But this helps [[focus]] your [[attention]] on [[God]], the one you are praying to. In a way, it is similar to [[meditating]]. In that you are only [[thinking]] about [[God]]. Of course you can't feel any of His love or [[communication]] from Him because you are praying. But its the same [[idea]], does this help?
  
when I am with other people and I pray in the spirit, I feel if I am totally concentrated on God that if God is going to answer my prayer I can almost feel that through the touch, the laying on of hands and the praying of the spirit and so I guess because of what you just explained, about your mind being more on God maybe this is the reason why because my mind is more concentrated on God than on the actual words that I am saying when I pray in the spirit.
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G2: Yes, when I am praying in the spirit, I always [[feel]] closer to [[God]], I feel more spiritually [[connected]] and I feel that God hears my prayers better when I am praying in the spirit rather than when I am in the [[English]] tongue. So even though I don't pray in the spirit as often as I [[feel]] I should, I sometimes, when I am with other people and I pray in the spirit, I feel if I am totally [[concentrated]] on God that if God is going to answer my [[prayer]] I can almost feel that through the [[touch]], the laying on of hands and the praying of the spirit and so I guess because of what you just [[explained]], about your mind being more on God maybe this is the reason why because my [[mind]] is more [[concentrated]] on God than on the actual [[words]] that I am saying when I pray in the spirit.
  
Iruka: Yes, the Father of course hears your prayer no matter what language you use and indeed he knows before you ask. He knows your needs but it is the communication and its the focusing that has the reaction on you. It settles you down and any worry or fear or anxiety will melt away. So whatever language you use, He will hear you and understand.
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Iruka: Yes, [[the Father]] of course hears your [[prayer]] no matter what [[language]] you use and indeed he knows before you ask. He knows your needs but it is the [[communication]] and its the [[focusing]] that has the [[reaction]] on you. It settles you down and any worry or fear or [[anxiety]] will melt away. So whatever [[language]] you use, He will hear you and [[understand]].
  
J2: This is Jimmy again, with respect to the last question asked and the way you answered. It seems to me that since God already knows, prayer is for our comfort and all we need to do is be still. Am I correct in that assumption?
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J2: This is Jimmy again, with [[respect]] to the last question asked and the way you answered. It seems to me that since [[God]] already knows, [[prayer]] is for our [[comfort]] and all we need to do is be still. Am I correct in that [[assumption]]?
  
Iruka: There are times to be still, and there are times to verbalize. For you see this helps you also. This can be a way of God teaching you to listen to yourself and what is it that you are asking and is that really what you want. Is this understood?
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Iruka: There are times to be still, and there are times to verbalize. For you see this helps you also. This can be a way of [[God]] teaching you to [[listen]] to yourself and what is it that you are asking and is that really what you want. Is this [[understood]]?
 
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If there are no other questions we will close for this evening. I have enjoyed answering your questions, and I look forward to next week. Good evening.
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If there are no other [[questions]] we will close for this evening. I have enjoyed answering your questions, and I look forward to next week. Good evening.
  
 
Group: Good evening.
 
Group: Good evening.

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Topic: Your Father Will Take Care of You

Group: Unknown

Facilitators

Teacher: Iruka

TR: Unknown

Session

Opening

Group prayer.

Iruka: The light of God.......

Iruka: Good afternoon, this is Iruka I am your teacher and guide. I am very happy to be here. I can feel the excitement in the room.

Lesson

I can tell that you are seekers of truth and I wish to help you on your path to the Father. This path is very exciting and it is very rewarding, but it takes time and growth can be painful...but you will be rewarded for your diligence. The goal of course is to become in alignment with the Father. To have your will to be His will, to follow Him. The joy that you get from this is immeasurable. The love that you get from the Father you learn to turn around and give it to others. Sometimes this is difficult, some people are not used to receiving love. And yet they need it so badly. Do not be discouraged, for you see the Father has experienced this same rejection. Those who reject the love are the ones who need it the most. You receive love from the Father, and you turn around and give it away. It doesn't matter if you are rejected, you will receive more love from the Father. You do not depend on the reactions of others, but the love from God is your strength. So my lesson for tonight is short but it is difficult. To rely on the Father, get your strength from Him and your love, and you in turn give it away. This week find another individual to show love. This can be as simple as a smile, as a cup of coffee, as being a listening person to their troubles. The more you practice the easier it gets. And if you don't expect anything in return from that person you will not be disappointed. Your Father will take care of you. This is my lesson for this evening, and I will now accept questions.

Dialogue

J1: Iruka this is John, we heard last night that there were 36 or so teaching groups plus another one in Maryland, could you tell us where that group is?

Iruka: Not specifically, but it is far away, and Pam has trouble with names so I suggest you wait until you get the list. I am not sure they are aware of you either, of this group either.

W1: Good evening Iruka, this is Willis. I wanted to introduce you to two more members I introduced the book to. Mr James Williams who goes by the name Jimmy Williams and a friend of his George.

Iruka: Welcome Jimmy and George.

W1: Are there many other beings here with you tonight?

Iruka: Oh yes, there are always many beings. There is a lot of attention on this mission. So there are always many beings watching.

J2: Hello Iruka, I am Jimmy. Comments on the lesson about love. What is my spiritual name?

Iruka: Han, H-A-N, Pam is very unsure. We will have to confirm it later.

G1: Hello Iruka, this is George. Iruka I have been trying to follow after God for several years. I don't know that you know the history of when I first started churching, but I am very pleased and overjoyed to be a witness to what is going on this evening. If I have a spiritual name would you please give it to me.

Iruka: Again, Pam is very unsure. Aerik, names are most difficult I am sorry I can't do better.

G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy. I don't know if you know that Gail and I are married. Were you aware of that from our last meeting?

Iruka: Yes

G2: And I was wondering over the week have you had a chance to visit our home?

Iruka: One evening I visited.

G2: OK, I was wondering when was that and was the level of love that you were telling us was good for a child to come into the house.

Iruka: I felt love in your home, I did not, was not concerned with the level, just that there is love and it flows, and it was not measured. Yes, there was love in your home. Does this answer?

G2: Yes, I was also wondering when did you visit our home?

Iruka: In the evening, Wednesday? Does this answer.

G2: Its an answer, but I don't think we were home Wednesday, we both work. We weren't there at the time?

Iruka: You were there when I visited, I may have the day wrong. I'm sorry I'm not sure.

G2: Thank you. One more question. Around Washington there are a lot of homeless people and it is kind of hard to distinguish those in need from those that want money to buy drugs. How can you tell people that need.. is there a way to tell people that need from people that want?

Iruka: You are asking this question and I think you mean by looking at them? Can you tell? Not without getting to know them, and maybe then not, Only an individual knows what he wants or plans to do. You wish to make a judgement on what somebody will do with what you give them?

G2: Yes, I used to give money freely and I find out that some people use that money for bad purposes. How or what would be a good way to conduct myself when confronted with such situations, is there a heavenly way to conduct myself?...or what should my priorities be.

Iruka: Jesus was very sympathetic to the poor. However, he knew that not everyone really were seeking or wanted what they were asking for. There is really no way to know for sure, you follow your guide inside. There is no way to know. If you wish to help, there are groups that see that clothing and food is distributed, but no one can make a judgement in a minute or 30 seconds. Ask yourself inside how to respond, your Thought Adjuster that piece of God inside of you can guide you, can help you respond. It is very difficult with so many everywhere.

Reincarnation, Afterlife

G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail. I was wondering if you could tell me, tell us if there are...if it is possible that we as spiritual beings have lived in the past and if we bring from...sort of like reincarnation. If there is any truth to that having past lives, which we can learn from our experiences or something that we can bring from the past that can spiritually help us now. And if there is any significance to Karma?

Iruka: Karma is the concept of..that something will happen. Is this how you are interpreting Karma?

G3: I believe the way I understand Karma to be is things that you have done in the past that were bad things then they would affect what is happening in your current life and you would experience a recurrence or repayment for what you had done in the past and if you had done something good to someone in maybe another life that would reflect upon your current life maybe you would be blessed for what you had done in your past lives, now and also do unto others as you would have them do unto you is I guess another segment of Karma, another interpretation of it. Does that have any significance, especially in relation to past lives?

Iruka: Thank you I better understand the question now. First, becoming a material, a space-time creature, is the first step. After you die and leave your material body, then next is the Morontia worlds for there are many. But to come back as another material being is not what happens. So Karma is not a word we worry about, it has no meaning when it is referred to different lives in the material. When you go on to a Morontia world you pick up at the spiritual level that you left off. And you are aware that humans have free will, so any path can be chosen and even after it is chosen it can be changed. Human will makes all the difference in your life. To be locked into a future because of decisions you made in the past is not valid, unless you continue to make those same decisions that put you there. Does this help, is this what you are asking?

G3: Yes it helps, thank you, it is what I am asking.

G1: I wonder if it would be feasible to ask for a private meeting.

Iruka: Yes, check with Pam, on a time and day, later.

Collective Consciousness

W1: Iruka, this is Willis again. I had to smile when Gail asked you about the past lives and reincarnation because you and I at our first meeting had those same questions. Since that time I do have a much better understanding and things make a lot more sense now. I am just curious, could you, if you are allowed, could you speak about the collective consciousness.

Iruka: There is indeed a collective consciousness. And it is in general very negative. What needs to be done is to change it to love and positive thoughts, so that it can influence the whole world. This is one way that we can turn the hate and the lost, the isolation feelings around and turn them into love, and the feeling that individuals are never alone. These feelings have been lost. Does this help?

W1: Yes, anything would have helped, because I am in the dark about the collective consciousness. Is it negative as a result of the past default and Caligastia and the rebellion?

Iruka: Of course, yes, that started much of it. And its influenced by general thoughts of hate and revenge that you see happening all over the world. Much like a snowball, it has grown in the wrong direction. It can be turned around, but we have to get love and peace rolling along that same hill, like a snowball, and overpower the hate and the anger. This is a job, this has to be a conscious effort, but it can be done.

W1: Yes, in reading the transcripts, I remember reading, I don't know if it was the Melchizedek or Welmek speaking, but the goal of Michael of Salvington and the Supreme and of course the Universal Father was to help rid the planets affected by the rebellion, rid them of negativity. Would that be this, the collective consciousness be a major part of that?

Iruka: Yes you understood well.

J1: Iruka, this is Jimmy again. Speaking about love, as I mentioned initially, there is something I have been practicing consciously each morning. In my meditation I send out unconditional love to all that God would love and I find that that is making me capable of communicating with my fellow man and when I run into this negativity it no longer angers me, no longer upsets me and it makes me want to share that with my fellow man. The results that I am getting. I just wanted to share that with the group. Thank you.

Iruka: Thank you and that was very beautifully put. Because indeed, the more love and the more in line with the Father, the less the opinions and thoughts of those around you will affect you when you draw only on the Father and get your strength from Him. It is like water on the back of a duck, it will roll off because you are in line with the Father.

S1: Hello Iruka, this is Steve. Thank you for coming. Is Curtis here? Very good, I want to communicate with him that I feel like I have not been a very good pupil and I wish to make a continued effort or better effort to communicate with him, and continue becoming a student or being a student.

Iruka: He hears your words, and he is not judgmental, he is happy that you want to learn and grow. And he wants to help you.

Evil

G2: Hello Iruka, this is Guy again. I know all the forces of evil have been dispelled. But on Earth, we see in the news about all these satanic groups still going on. Are they getting their negative energy from among themselves, and I just want to get an understanding on what is going on with that.

Iruka: You have said that correctly. The human mind is very powerful. And if it sets up a situation and it believes that, then the human mind thinks it is real. That in conjunction with the community of all the people, that they are creating this themselves. It takes a lot of energy to sustain this type of negativeness and slowly this should die out, much on its own. Does this help?

G2: It helps a lot. Thank you very much.

Dreams

G3: Hello Iruka this is Gail again. I have a question about dreams. I dream a lot and I was wondering does God deal with you in your dreams? To show you, to teach you, or show you things spiritually? And if so I was wondering how I can go about learning or being more attentive to what I am dreaming so I can experience what God is trying to show me. Because sometimes I feel that God is dealing with me through dreams. Could you speak on that?

Iruka: Of course. First, let me say that with God anything is possible. To say that He is speaking to you through your dreams, I don`t know. But I have a suggestion how you could find out. You obviously remember the dreams, take these dreams to Him in your prayer time and ask Him. If they are symbolic, if there is something He wants you to learn and then be very conscious in your life for the answers. The answer may not come in prayer time. It may come while you are walking down the street. It may come at a time when you are doing something else. This is the best that I can tell you to learn what they mean. Does this help

G2: Yes, thanks, it helps a lot.

Supreme

W1: During the period when our planet and others were isolated was that isolation also keeping these planets from affecting the growth of the Supreme?

Iruka: Let me re-phrase your question to make sure I understand. When this planet was cut off from the communications, was this inhibiting the growth of the Supreme Being, is that correct.

W1: Not quite, not necessarily inhibiting the growth, but was He able to access this area during the isolation. I know that He takes the experiences from everywhere, but during isolation here was He still able to capture the experiences from the isolated planets.

Iruka: Yes. He is not affected by the circuits that His lower subjects are controlled by. And so yes, He indeed experienced the frustration and everything else. He has no limitations in that regard.

Circuits

J1: As a follow-up to Willis's question, are all the circuits open now?

Iruka: Many circuits are open, not every single circuit of course, it will take time, but it is happening. That is the good news. It is happening.

W1: When we ask a question, and there is a time lapse between answers, are you using the circuits at that time to access information from other beings?

Iruka: Very perceptive, indeed if I don't immediately know the answer, I have help and part of that time is spent transmitting it to Pam. And that can also be slow. So yes.

W1: Obviously in accessing names it takes a bit of time so I may as well throw mine in. You don't have to give me the answer now, but the next time we gather I would like to know what Willis is.

Iruka: Noted. The problem is, Pam does not have enough experience. She came on line very fast and there are gaps. We are working around the gaps, but it may be a long time before she is comfortable and has any confidence with names. Does this help?

Transmitting

W1: Yes, it also brings on one other question. When you receive the information on the name, I take it there is a translation involved for Pam to actually speak it to us?

Iruka: Some words are visualized, some ideas or short phrases. Sometimes I don't give the words or a phrase, I give an idea. Pam must come up with the words in some cases. But names can be anything and it can be difficult. Does this help?

G1: Iruka this is George. I don't have a question, I would just like to express my appreciation for listening. A lot of the things that were said here this evening have quickened my spirit, have made me understand that this is indeed a special group, a special time, a special session that I am attending and I would just like to say that I have enjoyed, my spirit has enjoyed it very much. Thank you.

Iruka: You are welcome, thank you.

Names

G3: Iruka this is Gail, I have one last question, since we are on the spiritual names. Could you tell me what is the significance of knowing your spiritual name and is there a certain time like in prayer or that we should use our spiritual name if we know it, and this is the third part of it, if you could and if it is easy, could you tell me my spiritual name and the significance of it and when I should use it. I guess that is what I want to say.

Iruka: Your spiritual name describes who you are. It is a translation a literal meaning that really has no significance on this plane. It is used, it will be used, on the Morontia side. You don't need to use it, it is a matter of curiosity to humans and so we tell them what it is, but on this side you don't have to use it at any time. God knows who you are, no matter what you call yourself. No matter who calls you and what they call you. He knows each one of his children, and if you wanted people to call you by that name, that is fine. But it is not necessary. Does this help?

Prayer

G2: Yes, could you tell me is there such a thing as praying in the spirit? I know we as humans many times pray audibly to God in our own language, but there is such a thing I have been told and in reading in the Bible which they speak of "speaking in tongues" and also many have referred to that as praying in the spirit. Do you know anything about praying in the spirit or could you explain it to me? . ..or do you know anything about that.

Iruka: Yes, I think it is a tool. When you are praying in the spirit or in tongues, it helps to focus your attention on God. Sometimes prayers that have been said over and over and over again have lost their focus. People can say these prayers and watch TV. But this helps focus your attention on God, the one you are praying to. In a way, it is similar to meditating. In that you are only thinking about God. Of course you can't feel any of His love or communication from Him because you are praying. But its the same idea, does this help?

G2: Yes, when I am praying in the spirit, I always feel closer to God, I feel more spiritually connected and I feel that God hears my prayers better when I am praying in the spirit rather than when I am in the English tongue. So even though I don't pray in the spirit as often as I feel I should, I sometimes, when I am with other people and I pray in the spirit, I feel if I am totally concentrated on God that if God is going to answer my prayer I can almost feel that through the touch, the laying on of hands and the praying of the spirit and so I guess because of what you just explained, about your mind being more on God maybe this is the reason why because my mind is more concentrated on God than on the actual words that I am saying when I pray in the spirit.

Iruka: Yes, the Father of course hears your prayer no matter what language you use and indeed he knows before you ask. He knows your needs but it is the communication and its the focusing that has the reaction on you. It settles you down and any worry or fear or anxiety will melt away. So whatever language you use, He will hear you and understand.

J2: This is Jimmy again, with respect to the last question asked and the way you answered. It seems to me that since God already knows, prayer is for our comfort and all we need to do is be still. Am I correct in that assumption?

Iruka: There are times to be still, and there are times to verbalize. For you see this helps you also. This can be a way of God teaching you to listen to yourself and what is it that you are asking and is that really what you want. Is this understood?

Closing

If there are no other questions we will close for this evening. I have enjoyed answering your questions, and I look forward to next week. Good evening.

Group: Good evening.